Cerakote vs. Duracoat

Discussion in 'Engraving & Refinishing' started by DarinCraft, Jan 21, 2011.

  1. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    I know this has been discussed on every other forum out there, but I couldn't find it here and you guys I trust.

    Does anyone have experience with one or the other or maybe both and would like to share good, bad or compare the two?

    I read that Cerakote is tougher, but harder to apply.
     
  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I had a Model 36 Duracoated and it chipped off in a few places and wore off in others. It was applied by a friend of mine who is in the body and paint business. The gun had been bead blasted and some parts were glass blasted. It was prepped, cleaned and sprayed properly.

    So I personally would not use Duracoat. I've never had a gun Ceracoated, so I can't help you there.

    Are you planning on sending it out, and if so, what is your budget, if you don't mind me asking. I'm assuming this is for your project rifle.
     

  3. rjd3282

    rjd3282 New Member

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    I've used Duracoat and I have used several of the colors some are not to durable. The Colt Grey seems to be the best. I have Dura coat black on my carry gun and it hasn't held up at all. My rifles don't get banged around like my pistols so it works well for them. I think I will try the Cerakote when I redo my carry gun. People seem to have better things to say about it.
     
  4. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Have you considered parkerizing? Videos on youtube show people doing it on their BBQ grills.
     
  5. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    only things i would use duracoat on are investment cast things like ruger 10/22 recievers that cant be anodized or parkerized or blued. i wouldnt use it less there isnt anything else that will do what ya want.

    my pink ruger 10/22 the reciever was duracoated pink over at gander mountain. the smith that did it said i should let it sit for 2 weeks to harden. i let it sit for 2 months before i assembled it. it scratches really easy. got a few finish dings just from reassembly. fortunately the stock hides the marks.

    durability i give duracoat a 0 out of 10.

    dunno anything about cerakote.

    the tool grade nitride finishes are very good but require special tools to apply. remington's trinyte is one of those. but its not something you can do in your wife's oven.
     
  6. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    Thanks for the great info guys.

    Don, to answer your question yes. I called a gunsmith here locally and he said he would re-blue my receiver and barrel for around $125 dependent on the prep work needed. I looked at Duracoat and they have a "blue" color and had never heard anything about CeraKote until Cane posted a link to their site. They have a black with blue highlights.

    I'm starting to get the feeling though, I might be better off just having the gun re-blued. I am getting worried that I am teetering on getting to financially invested in this gun. I bought it for $300, re-finish the stock (well thats free) and now re-bluing. Heck I could have bought a brand new gun for way cheaper than that.

    Then again, I wouldn't have a piece of history that I hopefully have turned into a beautiful rifle.

    On a side note though, I decided against recheckering the stock. I got my hands on all the tooling, but the look of the stock without the checkering has really grown on me.
     
  7. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Darin,

    If you want to go with a spray on finish, I suggest Brownell's Aluma-Hide II. That's what's on my Eddystone and it's holding up well. It's downright cheap and is available in colors other than the matte black that I used.

    If you go that route, buy two cans in case you need a little extra and also to have just in case.

    Rebluing sounds good as well and that seems to be about the going rate.

    Here's a link to the Aluma Hyde: World's Largest Supplier of Firearm Accessories, Gun Parts and Gunsmithing Tools - BROWNELLS
     
  8. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I had the action parts CERAKOTED with Sig Black and I'm happy with the outcome. I had it done. I think I'll try to do the next project myself.


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  9. DarinCraft

    DarinCraft New Member

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    Thanks Don. I had looked at that when I read your post on the Eddystone. The more I look around the more options I find I have. I still have a couple of days before my recoil pad comes in and then I'll get back to work on the stock. I'll probably keep looking around at different things and make a decision between spray on coating, hot blue or parkerizing.

    Cane, that is a beautiful gun. One day I am going to get a 3.5" 1911.
     
  10. jca1

    jca1 New Member

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    I'd suggest "Cerahide" by CCR
     

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  11. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I had my Sistema done in CeraHide by CCR and it's outstanding. However I didn't recommend it because it costs more than the budget seems to allow for this project.
     
  12. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Thanks Darin. That's Canebrake, my Colt Defender, a 3" mouse gun.

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  13. Nozzlehead

    Nozzlehead New Member

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    I believe another option in Durabake. This requires a baking process & I have read good things on the results.
     
  14. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    CCR, is that the place in Memphis, TN? How was your experience with them? Did you ship directly to them? Do you think i could hand deliver to them? Tellmeboutitman

    I have a cz75b with an ugly slide that needs some love.
     
  15. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    CCR is in Greenville, Tenn. Brad and Mary are extremely nice and are people of integrity.

    The work is excellent and turn around time is pretty darn fast. The finish on my Sistema is much nicer than can be conveyed in photos.
     
  16. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    If you want to sell your services here, you are most welcome to do so as a Vendor.
     
  17. TheOldMan

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    Reading some negatives concerning DuraCoat is kind of surprising to me.. Not that it's never happened but I've done several firearms in DuraCoat with absolutelly great results and durability has been high. Like anything though, gun prep is everything. Duracoat likes a rough surface for application. Some folks even prep the firearm by having the surface parkarized first then sprayed to have that extra bit of surface roughness for the paint to adhere.

    Glass bead blasting is not recommended if you are intending to apply DuraCoat since the finish will be too smooth for the paint to adhere properly. Another factor in durability is in the mixing process. DuraCoat is a two part mix and must be done right for it to work well. I'm not saying all of these things were not done in CA's instance but I'm just saying that DuraCoat is a great product at least from my experience.
     
  18. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    My impression from other research I've done is that Duracoat is a fairly straightforward DIY project (with results that match...) and Cerakote is something done by tradesmen in a shop (with more consistent and reliable results...).
     
  19. TheOldMan

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    I beg to differ.. Home - Oakridge Custom Finishing, LLC One company (tradesman) who offers Duracoating.. I'd like you to pay special attention to the "projects" portion of this mans website. His shop is local to my area. I would caution you not relegate any gun refinishing processes to either the "Do it Yourselfers" or tradsmen. There are no gun finishes that I know of that cannot and are not being reproduced by the DIY's in their home shops.

    Just because you run a shop or business, does not automatically mean you are consistant and/or reliable...
     
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    cerakote, Phantom Finishing Concord, CA Home