CCW Practice Draws?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by paulbrower, Sep 18, 2011.

  1. paulbrower

    paulbrower New Member

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    When I took my CCW course (www.udrange.com, from Sgt Paul Bastean), Sgt Bastean told us that of the 6000+ people he had taught since 2003, he was aware of three 'shoot' incidents. All were justified, but one in particular, the guy could not get his weapon out of his pocket. By the time he finally got it out, the assailant had fired several times. Luckily, the assailant was an idiot, and had loaded 3 types of rounds in a revolver, and all shots were misfires.

    What I took away from this, was that whether you've got an IWB, pocket, or ankle holster, you need to practice. I mean, what's the point of carrying if you can't get it out in under a second? Do you guys/gals practice daily? Whatever I'm packing (Ruger LCP pocket or Glock 27 IWB for me), every morning when I get to work, I shut my door and practice retrieving my weapon for 5-10 minutes. I can have them out less than a second.

    (and yes, concealed weapons are ok where I work. I've told my boss I would quit if they prohibited them)

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  2. AOK

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    Personally I practice on average of 30 minutes a day working on a variety of things I've learned in classes and private instruction. Sometimes as little as 15 minutes and sometimes up to a couple of hours days I go to the range.

    Time wise, from a standstill, hands down by side, with cover garment, 15-18 feet my first three draws (with no warm up) averages around 1.24 seconds with a shot on CM. Yes, I can go a little faster but this is a speed where everything is nice and smooth and a great sight picture on my intended target.

    Unfortunately I know several people who carry but hardly go to the range a few times a year let alone work on getting their gun out to defend themselves. I think part of it is people don't realize how unprepared they are for a life and death encounter (you don't know what you don't know) and for other's it's just not high on their priority list.
     

  3. CHLChris

    CHLChris New Member

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    If I could "plan" a possible critical incident against me in which I had to protect my life, I would be well-prepared and have received every bit of training I could.

    However, in real life my time is quite limited, as is my money. Since training classes and range time takes money as well as time, I do what I can. But I dont feel too bad knowing that it is better to be armed and undertrained than unarmed and undertrained.

    At the very least I make sure I am carrying a firearm that is clean and has ammo that cycled well a few months ago at the range.

    YMMV (and probably does...)
     
  4. JonM

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    i would thnk if your being actively fired upon first thing is seek cover then deploy your firearm. but all what-iffs are different and its possible to what-if yourself to the rubber room.

    practicing your draw with an empty gun is critical. practicing for a bunch of what-ifs is the path to insanity.
     
  5. MrWray

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    I know tht most LEOs do this to but i even do this during concealed carry.. Just like conducting a traffic stop, if the driver or passenger were acting hinky or even if i got a weird feeling in my stomache i would unsnap the thumb break or in my case i used a blackhawk level 3 serpa holster so i would pop the hood forward tht way it was one less action i would have to make if i had to pull "which i had to ALOT" if im out somewhere i study my surroundings and the behavior of every person around me. If i ever get tht gut feeling tht i always trust i will secretly unsnap my thumb break, some people use open top holsters which r good too. I just like a thumb break for my 1911
     
  6. MrWray

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    Not tooting my own horn jon but talking about draw speed and training kicking in. We had a situation one time where a person with a felony warrant refused to come out of his mothers house so we had a stand off with him through a sliding glass door. I had my 870 14" barrel shotgun and my cpt beside me and undersheriff and sheriff behind me authorized forced enrty. I exploded the sliding glass door with the barrel of my 870 and set the shotgun down,pulled my X26 and while the glass was still falling i tased the subject through the falling glass and entered the residence. But i didnt know tht it went down this fast until we had the subject in custody and my reserve riding with me told me how fast i did it.. Just an example of training mixed with adrenalin
     
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  7. paulbrower

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    I somewhat disagree. Yes, it's our god-given right to carry, but we need to do everything we can to be prepared. Just the other day a couple of cops accidentally shot two bystanders. IMO, if you can't budget your time and money to practice drawing and shooting, then you are being somewhat irresponsible. Not meaning to argue with you, just my two cents. (In all fairness, if I couldn't afford practice ammo, I'd still carry)

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  8. CHLChris

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    I made it sound somewhat callous, didn't I? I take it very seriously, my responsibilities as a sheep dog and my skills as a CHL holder. I mentally rehearse all the time, visualizing situations (my mind just never stops so I do this during little 5-minute free chunks of time or whatever).

    I just don't spend 10 minutes a day drawing my gun. I'm glad others do, though.
     
  9. Lindenwood

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    I practice specifically on my draw maybe half an hour per week total (including in my car), which is how I ended up with my specific carry position and concealment garment choices.

    I was amazed how much trouble I had early on regarding quick-draws. I'm no Wyatt Earp or whatever, but at least now I'm pretty confident my hand will end up in the right place and I won't get tangled up in my clothes or anything?
     
  10. levelcross

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    IMHO I feel that in a high stress situation your life depends on the training that you have invested in keeping yourself safe and alive. I practice my draws with my weapon empty, when I get into my truck I stage my weapon in another holster that I have mounted in my truck. I practice my draws from both of these holsters often, over and over.
     
  11. BenLuby

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    I'll give my two cents, then duck for cover while the certified trainers throw rocks at me.
    Airsoft makes several mock ups of real guns, as are all aware of. I have one, and have attached some weights in it for one simple reason. Living in a subdivision, the neighbors would get kind of wonky if I went out in the back yard and started quick draw fire exercises, but with the airsoft (weighted pretty close to my .40), I can literally stand in my living room and shoot my ass off, because those little pellets aren't going to do anything but excite my cats.
    The dog? He just looks at me like I'm retarded.
    Point is, don't get locked in on the 'gotta go live, gotta go to the range' mindset.
    Hell, you can go to Wally world and buy a little carnival type shooting game for the Airsoft and pop away at it all night long if you want, but the point is, you can still practice, and it's cheap as hell.
     
  12. Glockpotion23

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    When i took my class, we all had to practice drawing our gun and aiming. They also told us to practice at least 10 min a week practicing! Now that i am expecting the call to pick up my permit, i practice more often.
     
  13. Uncle Russ

    Uncle Russ New Member

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    Has anyone used those laser snapcaps for dry-fire practice? They're the ones that flash the laser when the firing pin hits the cap. The company also sells a laser-activated target that displays & tracks your hits. They're kinda pricey, but the concept sounds like a good idea for enhanced dry-fire training.