CCW....laser or no???

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by mccartro, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. mccartro

    mccartro New Member

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    So I'm sold on the Ruger LC9, but don't no if I should get it with or without the laser?? Seems impractical!!
     
  2. g17frantz

    g17frantz New Member

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    It depends on the person. If you're getting a crimson trace laser that is pressure sensitive, not a bad choice. If you have to slide a switch down, not very practical. I avoid lasers all together on a self defense weapon solely on the reason I don't want to trust my life to something electronic in that manner. I trust my sights-theres no battery in them. That's what i train with, that's what i know. For the range....sure lasers are fun. Just my .02. Welcome to the forum, go introduce yourself in the introductions thread
     

  3. kalel01a

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    I have a Crimson Trace laser on my PF-9 and carry it every day. I train primarily with the iron sights, but use the dot as backup. This is one of those cases that fits the saying "I would do ANYTHING to protect my family better!" Even if that includes using a battery.

    I have full respect for both sides, however.
     
  4. Charyoutree

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    For defensive purposes I don't see how the laser is all that useful. If you are in a situation where the flying defecation has impacted the rotating air motivator the adrenaline levels are going to be through the roof, the heartbeat will be sky high, physiological flight/fight response will be pulling blood from extremities, and tunnel vision will be closing in. Hitting a button for the laser and the additional mental processes associated with seeing the red dot will either not happen (best case) or will make you slower (which can get you killed).

    On the other side.... Lasers are a useful tool for dry-fire exercises and can be fun at the range. There is also the potential psychological impact they could potentially make on an intruder in a dark room if you catch him/her by surprise. They are also immensely useful in keeping cats and dogs occupied.

    My suggestion is that if you are buying the gun for self/home defense, skip the laser and put that money into buying more quality in the gun. If buying it to have some fun, knock yourself out. :)

    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Who watches the watchers?) --"Satires", Juvenal (Roman poet)
     
  5. Brennan16

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    I was 100% against a laser until I ordered the free DVD from Crimson Trace. Check it out, it may just enlighten you and change your mind.
    I now have one on my XD40 all of the time.

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  6. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    You don't have to order the DVD. You can watch it all on YouTube here...

    http://www.youtube.com/user/LaserAlpha/videos
     
  7. RecklessRegard

    RecklessRegard New Member

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    I am against lasers. Overall proficiency is what it is all about. Get good with your gun. Then, shoot some more and get really good with your gun. Just my two cents. Some people really like them, I don't see their purpose.
     
  8. Paladin201

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  9. Brennan16

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    I am GOOD with my gun. I am in personal protection so I HAVE TO BE. But there may come a point in time where you are in a situation where you can't aim (hence the DVD statement). The DVD or YouTube that was mentioned shows several situations where the laser prevails. To each his own though.

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  10. wjnfirearms

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    I'd go with what you want.

    However, don't get dependant on the laser over building your shooting skills without it. Use of the laser itself can possibly be a deterrant (seeing that little red/green dot on one's chest says volumes), but again, not to be a substitute for being a good shot and mastering weapon control.
     
  11. gollygee

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    The crimson trace lasers that are pressure activated are really good for practicing 'point & shoot' because it can be done by dry firing at home. It can also be very helpful in practicing trigger control. The thing is, when you have mastered those two things, you do not need a laser to hit your target. In fact, you do not need the iron sights either. Most self defense situations are going to happen very quickly & be in relatively close quarters. I say "most" because there are always exceptions. But in those 'most' cases, your point & shoot practice is what will pay off for you.
     
  12. USMC-03

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    Wait...a company has a DVD that promotes their products and makes them look like a must have?
     
  13. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    I stake my life on muscle memory, NOT on a battery!
     
  14. Brennan16

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    I agree. One day that battery will be dead when you need it. Hence why I don't depend on it. I just like having it.

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  15. gollygee

    gollygee New Member

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    I know one fellow that uses his more as a toy. His cat likes to chase the red dot on the floor. :)
     
  16. kalel01a

    kalel01a New Member

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    So does my dog...

    Only dog stupid enough to WANT a gun pointed in it's direction!
     
  17. armed1212

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    I have to say when shooting small guns or pocket guns a crimeson trace helps alot. I know on my lcp which has Like no sights the laser makes it so much ez to aim. And as for battery if it's your carry gun u take it on m off everyday I hope u would notice that the battery was low. Common sense. but we should be well trained with out the laser.
     
  18. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You dont wait for the battery to get low. You change them at a regular interval depending on your usage.
     
  19. Cattledog

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    Agreed... cant say much more than that. Although, I would really, really hate to be expecting the laser to turn on and wasting that precious split second to think WTF!!!??
     
  20. kalel01a

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    And yet if it works and gives you a split second back, it may have just saved an innocent life... My laser has never failed to operate when i press the button. That increases my faith in the technology... Still no replacement for iron sight practice!