CCW& And a 18 WHEELER

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by lonewolf101, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. lonewolf101

    lonewolf101 New Member

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    Just herd that a man from Indina was charged waving his gun at a truck driver here on I94! in Racine he was legal to carry here since he had a perimit from his home State.I can understand what he was thinking thoes 18 wheelers are WEAPONS if the driver is NUTS and using a few tons in a way to block you or run you off the road!but to act like a cowboy No I would not do that what he done that was wrong!.
     
  2. JohnJak

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    Where to find the news article?
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Normal Protocol is to reference the source.
    To post without the source makes you look like a trouble maker and troll.
     
  4. lonewolf101

    lonewolf101 New Member

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    I herd it on the RADIO!
     
  5. Georgiahunter

    Georgiahunter New Member

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    How did you get a herd on the radio? Must have been pretty cramped!
     
  6. Kodeman

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    Hey Georgiahunter, Good One!!
     
  7. AIKIJUTSU

    AIKIJUTSU New Member

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    Waving a gun at somebody to intimidate him/her/it :) is illegal everywhere, so far as I know. It is called "brandishing a weapon", or "brandishing a firearm". If he really felt his life was threatened by the trucker, he should have called 911, and tried to escape while he was online to the dispatcher. If he felt his life was in immediate danger, and shot the trucker, then he'd have a runaway truck and who knows what would happen then? Likely he was just pissed off and thought he could prevail against the trucker in what was really a minor dispute.
     
  8. lonewolf101

    lonewolf101 New Member

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    dont be w wise a$$ Georgiahunter you now what I ment man!.
     
  9. Georgiahunter

    Georgiahunter New Member

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    Yea, I do. Didn't mean to upset you. I don't think that was right move by that driver though.
     
  10. lonewolf101

    lonewolf101 New Member

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    you didnt upset me man.He could handled it a different way that was just STUPID this aint the WILD WEST.
     
  11. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    Its illegal and STUPID....

    Truckers should be allowed to carry too, i used to drive otr
     
  12. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    It is very likely that by the time the authorities finish with him, his poor judgement will not matter that much- since he will probably no longer HAVE a concealed carry permit- and MAY lose his right to even OWN a gun.

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  13. Muliemaster

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    I own an operate a small truckin company on the ranch we haul flat bed freight as well as livestock in no way shape or form is it legal to carry a firearm in a truck my brother was on a run to okalona mississippi dot portables stopped us he was overweight so they did a full dot check on him one dot cop noticed he had a gun next to his seat between the pass seat an sleeper well it got real ugly I had a truck impounded an he went to jail on felony firearms charges took a ton of money but he was able to plead it down but not worth it
     
  14. dragunovsks

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    They should be able to, in my opinion the idea that truckers arent allowed to defend themselves is totally assinine. When i drove otr i was sent to or through some pretty nasty areas. My home terminal was in gary indiana. When in the area i didnt feel safe at all. My best friends dad drove a truck for years and got robbed all the time. It was company policy for drivers not to resist if anyone wanted the truck or its load.
     
  15. Georgiahunter

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    That is the dumbest policy I have ever heard. My uncle drove an 18 wheeler for years, and I have heard stories if people opening his passenger door when he was at a stop sign. Except they were greeted with a .357 mag stuck between their eyes. Not allowing your drivers to carry is bad management.
     
  16. downsouth

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    I got off the road four years ago. About the only thing a driver can have is a tool that could double as a sd weapon. Say a claw hammer or a pry bar to get nails out of the trailer bed. Even the old " tire thumper" can be a problem.
     
  17. dragunovsks

    dragunovsks New Member

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    I carried a 15 inch adjustable wrench between my seat and door in case anyone got into my truck while i was in it. I also used it for light mechanic work on the truck and/or trailer, its a good idea to have some tools on hand. Since i was in flatbed division i had a four foot winch/snap binder bar which could double as a very club outside the truck.

    If i was in the truck the doors were locked, we were also told by our fleet managers that in really bad areas we could also run the seat belts through the pull handles on the door panel and buckle it. That would help keep the door closed but doesnt help you if they knock out the glass.

    It is a stupid policy but its federal law (federal dot regs) so its not up to trucking the companies. I heard a couple years ago there was a politition in AZ that was trying to make it legal (and the decision of the driver not the trucking company) to carry a firearm in a commercial vehicle.
     
  18. dragunovsks

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    Correction, after a couple hours of searching the web i have discovered i was wrong in my previous post. There is no federal law prohibiting commercial drivers from possessing a firearm in a commercial vehicle providing the company they drive for doesnt have a policy prohibiting it.

    Basically what the law says is that its legal as long as the local laws in the area the truck is in allows it. Of course most trucking companies have a strict policy against it and violating it can get you terminated.
     
  19. gwk4667

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    I had a state trooper pull me for a DOT check. When I gave him my CDL he saw my CCW permit and ask if I had one with me.

    I replied no as I had to travel thru ILL and thus did not have one. He stated that if I had been in possession I would have gone to jail. That pi**ed me off and I called the INDOT superintendent ( friend of mine ) and for about a week everybody at the state house was in a scramble and it was determined there is no law in Indiana disallowing CCW in commercial vehicles ( old wives tale ) and while they were checking it was determined several people had been wrongly jailed and fined and had CCW permits revoked.

    This really embarrassed the atty general! I don't know how it all worked out but the sheriff in Henry county is married to a state trooper and she was assigned to go thru records of state police officers that jailed people and see if they had CCW or not and report to the atty general.

    I no longer haul over the road but when I did I never had a problem and if I got routed thru Ill I would ad a package to my cargo and after leaving the state I would retrieve it.
     
  20. dragunovsks

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    It never was an option for me as i drove for Swift Transportation out of Phoenix AZ and they had a strict no firearms in company trucks policy and breaking this policy could result in being terminated hundreds or thousands of miles from home. Plus because of the division i was in i could be sent to any of the lower 48 states, even the ones who hate guns. I even went to Cali several times and drove through IL alot on my way to or from Lerado TX and Nogales AZ. Also i was flatbed, sometimes pulled a box but not very often, usually pulled a 48' skateboard or a 53' stepdeck so securing my pistol someplace other than the cab wasnt doable. I had a storage compartment under my lower bunk in the sleeper berth but it was accessible from inside by lifting the bunk so it wouldnt have been legal either. I still drive part time for a local timber mill, pulling logs and chips so ill be carrying then.

    Also shippers and receivers of loads often have a no firearms policy. I picked up coils and beams at steel mills alot and most have the said policy as well.