Carrying with no license..

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by GlockRenegade, Jun 26, 2013.

  1. GlockRenegade

    GlockRenegade New Member

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    So I have a friend that has started carrying certain times and places but does not have a CHL. For example he doesn't go to the movies without a gun. Recent events have lead him to make this decision. I have told him there would be major consequences if he got busted. He told me yes you're right, but if the place he was at was getting shot up, and he used his gun to stop the shooter, the Consequnces would be worth it. Of course this is nothing but IF, IF, IF. We just got to talking after a few beers. (No guns lol). What are yalls thoughts?
     
  2. gr8oldguy

    gr8oldguy New Member

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    Why doesn't he get his ccp? He is risking a lot.
     

  3. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    Even if he is a hero and saves everyone's life he is still going to be in big trouble. He needs to get everything legal in a hurry if he feels the need to carry a handgun.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Man is gonna do what he thinks he has to.

    Mind you, may not be the BRIGHTEST idea in the world. Since if he gets arrested, in some places that will hand him a felony. THAT means he loses his right to possess ANY gun. Forever.




    DAMN that is a long time.



    Are you asking for my advice? If so- (1) get a permit. (2) If you are in an area where you cannot get one, move.
     
  5. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    QFT

    Not something I would do, but that is the nature of civil disobedience. Pick your hill, and live with the consequences.
     
  6. derpie

    derpie New Member

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    Funny thing is the criminals do it all the time, as they sometimes say it's better to be judged by twelve. Then carried by six....
     
  7. Axxe55

    Axxe55 The Apocalypse Is Coming.....

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    i believe he's being very foolish and irresponsible and also breaking the law. personally, i'd put some real estate between you and him.
     
  8. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    Being a responsible citizen is not the same thing as being a criminal. If he lives in a state that offers the opportunity to get a carry permit, then he should get one. That is what responsible citizens do. I carry at the theatre. They could ask me to leave. But that is all. Getting caught without a permit...yea that is a totally different matter.
     
  9. Triumphman

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    Don't know where you're located, but here in Missouri, we have the Castle Doctrine. Means we can carry a Gun in our Vehicles as protection, WITHOUT a License. Other States might have different Laws concerning this.
    However, once you step foot out that Vehicle and you have a Gun on you, YOU better have a Permit to conceal carry or open carry depending on City Laws, or it's a few nights stay at the Grey Bar Hotel, Huge Legal Fees, Embarrassment to yourself and Family, and possibility of losing your Job. You also lose your rights to Gun Priviledges---FOREVER---as you're now listed as a Criminal.
    Actually, you're considered a Criminal just by doing this, because it's against the Law. Only thing saving your Friend right now, is he hasn't gotten caught---YET. That's too much to lose, to protect one's Family, with all the well-meaning they may have, by not going through such a simple CCW Class.
    Del
     
  10. Jagermeister

    Jagermeister New Member

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    I know someone whose son is in jail for carrying without a license. The boy has changed a lot and now has tatoos like a gangster. She cries a lot.....
     
  11. JonM

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    if he wants to take risks like that he should cowboy up if he gets caught.

    most folks will try to weasel out of it.

    if this nation was a free one we wouldnt need ccw cards. but its not a free country and there are consequences for defying our slave masters.
     
  12. DrumJunkie

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    Open carry not an option? I understand the reasoning to want to carry but this...friend will need to understand that no matter what side of a SD issue he is still illegally carrying. It's like getting in a wreck with no drivers license. The wreck might not have been your fault but an unlicensed driver had no reason to be there to begin with. It's a lose-lose.
     
  13. arizona

    arizona New Member

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    In AZ as well as some other states we do not need a permit for most concealed carry. The permit does allow you to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol. The decision to get a permit should be determined in large part by local laws.
     
  14. Steel_Talon

    Steel_Talon New Member

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    The AZ CC permit also allows you reciprocity with a number of other states
     
  15. AR10

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    Next time you see him, put a quarter on the table, and tell him that is all it takes to get him ten years in max security prison, loosing his gun and voting rights forever, as well as being branded a felon for the rest of his life.

    Seems a foolish trade off to play John Wayne at the movies.

    After you give him the quarter, look into raising your own social status. Your friend sounds like a thug.
     
  16. GTX63

    GTX63 New Member

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    Inbetween slugs of beer, did the question as to why he has to do it illegally ever come up?
     
  17. johnr1943

    johnr1943 New Member

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    Find a new friiend... something is going on inside him. If you happened to be with him when he gets caught then you've got big time problems yourself. He is :confused: and may have a "past life" you're not aware of. :eek:
     
  18. steve666

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    Here in Indiana if there are no other charges (if it comes out of the holster, fired or not, there will be other charges!!!) and it is your first time you will be charged with Carrying a Handgun without a License as a Class A misdemeanor which carries up to 1yr in jail and $1000 fine (usually fine and probation). Second offense or other charges bump it up to a felony with much worse consequences. In either case a conviction for a firearm offense will make it hard, if not impossible, to get a license in the future.
     
  19. HOSSFLY

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    He's already a convicted criminal & unable to get a permit or a idiot--bout it-
     
  20. ndfi78

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    I'm wondering what his reasoning was for not getting a CHL...