Carrying in Bars?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by LegatoRedrivers, Apr 11, 2010.

  1. LegatoRedrivers

    LegatoRedrivers New Member

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    I recently went to a bar with my GF, and she was actually surprised to see that I was NOT carrying.

    I carry just about everywhere I go, but bars are the exception. While I know that people get drunk, tempers flare, and fights start, I'd just rather not be carrying there.

    I never drink to get drunk, and am fully able of controlling myself, so it's a little hard to put my finger on why; but in any situation I know I'm going to drink at all, my sidearm is unloaded, locked, and placed in the trunk until I get home. It's just how I've always done it, and it's just always made sense to me.

    Opinions on the subject?
     
  2. EiteCombat

    EiteCombat New Member

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    In Virginia the only way to carry in bars is to open carry. It's illegal to conceal in an establishment that serves alcohol for consumption, even if you're not drinking. I find it better to just take it off then open carry though. Anytime I go to a place that serves alcohol I lock it in my glove compartment until I come back to the vehicle. I rarely drink when I'm out, if anything I'll have a beer. Open carrying around a bunch of drunks might invite trouble.

    Hopefully they'll change the law so that if you're not drinking, you can conceal.
     

  3. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    That sounds very responsible to me. I am not much of a drinker. But when I do, the gun gets put away.
     
  4. LegatoRedrivers

    LegatoRedrivers New Member

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    In Indiana, there's no distinction between open and concealed with a valid permit. Legally, I could CC in the bar if I chose to do so.

    Correction - Unless it's a bar in a riverboat casino. Those are off limits, for some reason.
     
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  5. mpd8488

    mpd8488 New Member

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    I don't like the idea of leaving my gun in the car. I worry about criminals watching me unload and pack it away in a parking lot or even just randomly targeting my car. Besides that I ride a bicycle 90% of the time, so I have no where to leave if I wanted to. If I plan on going out to drink the gun has to stay at home.

    As mentioned above you have to open carry in restaurants with liquor licenses in Virginia. Legally speaking there is no such thing as a bar here, so the law cannot differentiate between a sit down restaurant with a couple of taps and a true watering hole. I do open carry in restaurants, but never in a crowded one that has clearly switched into night-time bar mode.
     
  6. LegatoRedrivers

    LegatoRedrivers New Member

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    I've been concerned about that as well. I generally stop somewhere with a quiet parking lot (or just in a friend's driveway) in order to pack it away, then proceed to the watering hole from there.
     
  7. planenut

    planenut New Member

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    In SC you can't conceal in a restaurant that also serves alchohol. No open carry either so it has already been decided for me... :(

    Even if I'm not drinking in say a Chili's or Applebee's, I can't carry.
     
  8. EiteCombat

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    I don't like the idea of packing it away in the car either but for me it's fairly simple as it takes about 5 seconds for me to disengage my holster and weapon and put it in my glovebox. The glove box has it's own lock so they would have to break into the car, then break that lock. Or just take the whole car. But there are much nicer cars in most parking lots to steal then mine.:D
     
  9. mpd8488

    mpd8488 New Member

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    Car thieves tend to go after older cars because the chop shops need parts for older vehicles. Common cars like Accords, Minivans, and Explorers are also among the most targeted vehicles.

    https://www.nicb.org/newsroom/nicb_campaigns/hot–wheels/hot–wheels

    I drive a Cherokee and those usually make the top ten lists.
     
  10. Gojubrian

    Gojubrian New Member

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    I don't go into bars. Solves alot of problems before they even happen. :p
     
  11. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    In NC you can not conceal carry in any place that sells and consumes alcohol.
     
  12. Biohazurd

    Biohazurd New Member

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    I rarely go to bars. Reason one, I can go buy booze at the store and bring it home for hell of alot cheaper, Reason two, my friends arnt bar hoppers either, and of course the final reason, No carrying allowed in bars in my state...
     
  13. dnthmn2004

    dnthmn2004 New Member

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    I would, but guess what... MA prohibits carrying under the influence. Up to 2.5 years in prison and the conviction also automatically invalidates your license to own or carry firearms.
     
  14. IGETEVEN

    IGETEVEN New Member

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    Guns, alcohol and it's effect to release and relax suppressed inhibitions may become a problem and result in doing something careless one would not do with a clear mind.

    It is best to not carry and drink, one could always utilize other self-defensive skills, if it becomes necessary. YMMV :cool:

    Jack
     
  15. ALSGUN

    ALSGUN New Member

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    I don't think alcohol and gun powder should mix, now if you were sitting in a restaurant that also served food and you were there for dinner , i see no problem with that.
     
  16. hopps402

    hopps402 New Member

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    Alcohol and Guns

    I can see both sides of the argument. I mean, if a fight breaks out (that I'm not involved in...), I'd rather be the guy who's near the door...but if I can't be, I hope no one else who is carrying makes a bad decision because I go to the bar to get drunk, so I don't even bring a car, let alone a gun.
     
  17. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Don't drink any more (Diabetes does that to you)

    Back in the day, if I was, I did not (carry)

    Have one local restaurant where I will open carry- blued model 36, Hogue grips, black holster- wearing dark slacks, you don't see it- and local LEOs eat there, so sorta blends in. If I were going out to a club, drinking or not, I would not carry.

    Did not USED to be agaisnt the law here in VA, and they are trying to change the law back, but if the place serves alcohol, you can't, whether you are drinking or not.
     
  18. michigan0626

    michigan0626 New Member

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    Not nessarily bars, but restaurants that serve alcohol.
     

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  19. LegatoRedrivers

    LegatoRedrivers New Member

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    That's pretty bad. An Army buddy of mine was OC, legally intoxicated, walking down a main street with a case of beer over his shoulder.

    He got arrested for public intox, but was released the next day gun and all. One night in the drunk tank, and that was it.
     
  20. Jess

    Jess New Member

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    In michigan the standard is 50% of income of the establishment has to come from the sale of booze. So Applebees is ok...the local meat market booty bar not ok