Carrying as a passenger

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by MyRawTalent, Oct 27, 2012.

  1. MyRawTalent

    MyRawTalent New Member

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    I've looked everywhere and I can't find anything on the law about carrying a handgun on you if you are the passenger of a vehicle and you have a weapons permit. Do you still have to notify an officer and show him your license if you are not driving?
     
  2. trip286

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    I would treat this as anything else. If I walk by a cop on the street, I wouldn't notify. Same as if I'm a passenger.

    I would tell the driver. And I would leave it to him to notify a cop if they get pulled over.
     

  3. Pasquanel

    Pasquanel Proud to be an American Supporter

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    I don't know about where you guys are from but here I don't have to notify anyone about anything including the driver or the cop.
     
  4. trip286

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    I wouldn't tell the driver because I had to.

    I would tell them because it's the courteous thing to do and because they may have a record I don't know about and they could henceforth "tell me now" that, "hey bro, I got busted on a domestic charge 35 years ago, I don't need a gun around."

    Also, if he gets pulled over, and he's asked "do you have any weapons in the car?" if he's being asked to exit, This may just happen to be a tidbit of information he may appreciate knowing. Because if they ask, the cops are not going to appreciate that information being withheld. I suppose you could just wait and speak up at this point, but again, that's a courtesy to your driver in my opinion. My step Dad tells me everytime. I already know, if he's awake, he's strapped. But he still tells me, if we get in a car together, "hey, by the way, I'm packin".
     
  5. partdeux

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    state law trumps... talk to a local 2A attorney. But, if you're required to notify if you're a driver, you're likely to have to notify as a passenger.
     
  6. Oblivion9

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    I agree not saying anything if passing a cop in street.

    But being detained in a traffic stop is different. If you are legally in possession why not notify?
     
  7. trip286

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    If I'm a passenger, I'm keeping my mouth shut, because its the driver who's been pulled over and I'm not speaking unless spoken to. I'll have already notified the driver that I'm packing because that's how I operate.

    Now, if the driver is asked "do you have any weapons in the car?" And he fails to mention mine, at that point I will speak up. Only because, having been on the other side of the badge, I know damn well that no cop wants to be surprised if he asks the passenger to exit and discovers they're armed.

    Also, in some states, its required that you notify law enforcement that your carrying if you're stopped, and to do so immediately. In that circumstance, I'll be reminding the driver of that as the cop is approaching.

    In general, the driver got pulled over, not me. Therefore, the driver does the talking, not me, not unless I have to in order to avoid a possible really bad situation.

    Let me make it clear, I'm not going to hide it. But I'm also not going to give the appearance of interfering. I would prefer the driver to be the one to say, "hey, my passenger is armed", while I sit there quietly, unobtrusively, and with my hands empty and in plain sight.
     
  8. GNXtreme

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    In Oklahoma it has been the law that you must immediately notify an officer when engaged in official business... I.E. him pulling over the vehicle you are in. I for one feel that the fewer people know that I'm carrying the better. Only my wife and closest friends will know when I'm carrying (which is all the time, lol! ).
     
  9. Old_Crow

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    I don't know the exact wording but here in NC you are required to notify the officer anytime you are stopped. Driving, walking or on a horse, so I would imagine as a passenger you are required to notify. Driving, walking or on a horse were the exact words of the instructor.
     
  10. PanBaccha

    PanBaccha New Member

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    Ditto! As in the state of Florida.
     
  11. -06

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    One needs to know the laws of his state and the ones traveled in. NC requires that firearms be in open site(unless CC-then you must notify) during a traffic stop--SC requires they be in a compartment and not readily accessible. I open carry most of the time to avoid having to say anything.
     
  12. dragunovsks

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    If I'm riding in someone else's vehicle I tell them I've got or plan to carry it. The only time I ride anymore is sometimes (rarely) my wife drives or if we carpool somewhere with my parents. My dad also has his permit so its not an issue there.
     
  13. Old_Crow

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    I asked a sheriffs deputy this AM at the Waffle House. He said "anywhere you are best to notify the officer. If you are out of state your odds of being searched in a traffic stop are much higher. He has let people keep their illegally concealed weapons if they notified him but he has never let anyone keep their pistol that tried to hide it" That is just one officers opinion. In NC most decisions regarding handguns are up to the officers discretion.

    We all pass through states where our permits are not recognized. Sometimes we all get lazy and fail to secure our weapons. Unless you are in a communist state it's best to notify the officer. To be honest it's a hell of alot cheaper to lose a $500 pistol than to face any sort of firearms charge.
     
  14. Byron0022

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    The smart and courteous thing to is notify the officer. He is already under enough stress that adding to the situation by surprising him is not going to help anything. If you are honestly so paranoid a officer is gonna infringe on your right to carry that you don't want to inform him that you have a concealed handgun on your person, record the conversation with your cell phone and file a IA complaint. No offense to anyone but I personally find it very pig headed not to tell someone who risk their life everyday that I/You are carrying a side arm.
     
  15. mdauben

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    The problem with that it is many departments policy is to disarm legal CCW carriers and to even unload their guns before retuning them at the end of the stop. Such actions are not only insulting but pointless and an IA complaint will accomplish nothing if the officer was just following written policy, no matter how pointless and ill conceived it may be.

    Why? An LEO is in no danger from me, armed or not. How does disarming me and treating me like a suspected criminal making him any safer?

    I'm always courteous to any LEO I happen to have contact with (not that it happens often) and if he asks if I'm armed I certainly won't lie about it but if I'm not legally required to notify I'm not going to volunteer the info.
     
    Last edited: Nov 10, 2012
  16. Byron0022

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    I personally wouldn't be offended if he wanted to empty my weapon and secure it while he was on scene or leaving. I'm not trying to pick a fuss here I just don't see how it can be that bad, the NRA , will defend you if a PD is harassing you though.
     
  17. BeyondTheBox

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    Not sure if it's state dependent but I don't have to notify anyone that I'm carrying a gun. I won't tell a cop if I'm pulled over, driving or not. It's only his business or concern if I'm being placed under arrest. Some say its common courtesy, I say it over complicates something that wasn't an issue in the first place. Write my ticket, shut your mouth, and lets both go back to our sh1t excuses for jobs.
     
  18. wharvey

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    So many question are based on state law and knowing the law answered the question. Most states don't require notification but some do, and then only under certain situations. Remember the video of an incident in Ohio about a year ago?

    In Texas you have to notify if a cop asks for your ID. Otherwise you do not. You also don't need to if you are not carrying. To do so is a personal choice.

    I usually will but depending on the situation may not. For instance my daughter had a flat a while back. She was having trouble getting it changed. Since she was just a few miles away I went to help out. A couple of cops had stopped to help. We got the tire changed. I didn't show my carry license since there seemed little need. They asked no one for IDs so everything was legal.