Carry triggers?

Discussion in 'Concealed Carrying & Personal Protection' started by BeyondTheBox, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Has anyone else noticed that the "mouse" or "pocket" labeled type of carry pieces seem to have those extremely long trigger pulls?

    Not all, of course, just most that I've noticed. It appears they utilize this feature in place of a manual safety locking mechanism. The only exception I can think of would be the Sig P238, but I doubt many actually carry something so expensive.

    What's your guys' opinions on this? Do you like the long pull, or would you prefer something more like a cocked and locked?

    I find myself not even wanting to take them shooting with me, and when I do they're rarely used. I much defer to the single action side of things. Or DAO triggers like that of a Glock or Ruger SR9C or S&W Sigma. Those aren't so bad.
     
  2. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    Then stay with what you want. I grew up shooting da/ sa revolvers and find a da type pistol trigger is a natural and carried a taurus 85ss revolver for 20 years. Used as a DA only. But even after going to the range and shooting my 22's a glock and maybe my hunting revolvers I will pull my first shoot in my Kahr9mm CC pistol then it all fine and feels right again with tight groups for a 3" barrel. Its just a head game and some are not comfortible with a longer pull. I love my hunting revolvers and .22 pistols for good short and light trigger pulls but for a cc gun they may not be the best like with a 1911 for many. And striker fired trigger with a short reset I like them just don't think much of most of the pistol for a small, light, concealable, thin, pistol for me. Just a personal thing.
     

  3. WilliamTF

    WilliamTF New Member

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    I actually like a long stiff trigger pull on a "pocket gun" if carried in your pocket with one in the pipe with your keys,chapstick,dip,whatever I don't want a light trigger pull . In a holster of whatever type fine but there's to much oppurtunty for and AD without a holster or ext safety imo. Plus the legalities for gun manufactures you can imagine. I know they're harder to learn to shoot well but I stay within 10yds of my target and make reasonbly accurate hits, no clover leafs closer to an elm leaf lol. But outside of 10 yds you MAY have a tough time claiming SD anyway. Good luck to ya
     
  4. BeyondTheBox

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    I have a couple carry guns, not because I carry, but because I might, and possibility is enough. However I hate shooting the things. They cause consistent inaccuracy and are impossible to rapid fire through a full clip, which is the most fun thing to do when shooting. I was just curious if I was alone there.
     
  5. hardluk1

    hardluk1 Active Member

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    williamTF Not a good idea to pocket a pistol with out a holster or to mix other stuff in with it. I try to just not change over the year and would never rotate CC pistol with different trigger designs. To easy to screw up.
    I don't think its harder to learn to shoot well just takes practice like any handgun does.
     
  6. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I would only carry a "mouse gun" for protection from mice, and our mice can usually be handled with a good boot.

    I agree with the previous post. Carry one gun, all the time, practice with it on a regular basis, carry it in a good holster, in the same place, and all of your moves become muscle memory and under duress you aren't having to think about; Where it is, how it is configured, is the safety on or off, is there a round in the tube, am I out-gunned.

    If you do these things, and you have made a decision that you must shoot, you should be able to safely draw, without sweeping yourself or anyone else, bring your firearm to your target, put your finger on the trigger and discharge a round in one fluid movement and without thinking about the process.
     
  7. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    +1 Chainfire

    "consistent inaccuracy"?

    Tell that to the millions of DA revolver shooters out there.

    You shoot what you're comfortable/good with.

    Don't knock the other guy's choice unless you want to "old school" challenge him to a duel!

    You may never know the outcome.
     
  8. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Truth for sure. Guess I'm just not a carry gun kind of guy so I wont. Too bad, but the right call nonetheless.
     
  9. Paladin201

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    I want any self defense gun to have a long hard trigger pull, at least on that first shot. The average every day guy isn't a highly disciplined soldier with intensive training. If you ever have to draw that gun, its going to be a high stress situation. You're going to be nervous and tense as hell. The last thing you want is your gun going off because your hand was shaking on a single action gun with a 2 lb trigger pull. "But I didn't mean to shoot him" isn't a very good defense. Mouse gun or not, I don't want that thing going off unless I make a conscious effort to pull that trigger, all the way. Trust me, in a life or death situation, you'll have enough strength to pull that trigger, I don't care how hard it is.
     
  10. rigjumpr

    rigjumpr New Member

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    please mark your Calendars it seems Paladin and I agree 100% :Dnot the norm but is all good.:eek:
     
  11. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I carry a Sig 238. It does not make sense to me to carry a cheap gun when your life may depend on it. The Sig is fast, accurate and fun to shoot so you will practice with it.
     
  12. rigjumpr

    rigjumpr New Member

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    You do know that there is a difference between cheap and inexpensive right ?
     
  13. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Yes there is but I see a lot of mfgs cutting corners to make their guns cheaper. Kahr can put out a pistol with a long smooth trigger pull and it costs a little more. A long, hard and gritty trigger is not a safety, it is cheap. A Ruger LCR goes for about $500 and has a very good trigger. The LCP does not compare but it was designed to compete with the P3AT while the LCR was designed to compete with Smith and Taurus. The Bersa is inexpensive but a very good pistol. It does not compare to the PPK in fit and finish but it is not a piece of junk. At about $400 the Ruger SR9c is a good inexpensive pistol. I have one for me and one for my wife. Mine has been flawless. Hers jammed a couple of times due to bad grip. Corrected the grip and it has not jammed since.
     
  14. rigjumpr

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    JTJ,
    you're correct it's not a "safety" but it is safer in a high adrenaline situation with a trigger with a 4+ pull. This is what the op was asking.
     
  15. Paladin201

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    Hey, even I can make sense once in a while.
     
  16. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    Its not about strength, I don't care how hard or heavy the pull is, its the length that bothers me. I want something thats going to be ready to fire as immediately as I am, not something I have to "force" to defend me. And thats exactly what I get with these triggers.
     
  17. BeyondTheBox

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    I never understood these types of comments. Who said anything about duelling?

    I'm not knocking anything more than my own inability to properly shoot a particular trigger type.

    Don't get me wrong, I hate revolvers and would never own one, but I respect anything that goes bang and could kill me. The finger behind it doesn't matter, so theres no offense to be taken.
     
  18. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    My point is, a bad trigger and bad ergonomics combined nasty recoil equals limited or no practice with that weapon. Being proficient with your carry weapon is not optional. Get a good pistol with a good trigger, good ergonomics, controllable recoil and you will practice with it and become proficient. A long, hard trigger is not a substitute for proficiency and is a safety risk not an asset. The reset on those bad triggers is also long resulting in even longer time to get back on target or a malfunction because you did not let the trigger reset.
     
  19. ScottA

    ScottA FAA licensed bugsmasher Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^^ Ditto.
     
  20. BeyondTheBox

    BeyondTheBox New Member

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    I never understood these types of comments. Who said anything about duelling?

    I'm not knocking anything more than my own inability to properly shoot a particular trigger type.

    Don't get me wrong, I hate revolvers and would never own one, but I respect anything that goes bang and could kill me. The finger behind it doesn't matter, so theres no offense to be taken.