Carcano, a thrifty idea?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by 308Wins, Jun 24, 2013.

  1. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    I've been contemplating one for about a year now, and for a bit I thought I might as well get a Mosin because it's so popular. I saw several at a gun show yesterday, and I'm just staring them thinking "this isn't for me...". A high-powered, bolt action rifle still, but that's all it is to me.
    So I got back to thinking about the Carcano. I checked out some online auctions, and they aren't terribly much more expensive. I haven't gotten to fire one before, but I want to have one of my own to go shooting with =).
    My questions are...
    -Are they reliable?
    -How's the ammo cost?
    -At how far are they accurate?
    -I'd really like a 91/38, are they hard to find?
    -What do you think would be a preferred environment to buy one at?
     
  2. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    - Are they reliable - No
    - How's the ammo cost - box of 20 for $20 for new PPU ammo
    - How far are they accurate - ask Lee Harvey Oswald... but most people aren't very accurate with them
    - 91/38 are they hard to find - not hard but not easy to find either
    - preferred environment to buy one - probably online auction site or gun show, otherwise hit or miss at gun shops
     

  3. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    "Oswald got off three shots in only SIX seconds, with an old Italian bolt action rifle, including a headshot!"
    88 yards away
     
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  4. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    So they say ;-)
     
  5. mountainman13

    mountainman13 New Member

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    From two different directions no less. Lmfao
     
  6. donthav1

    donthav1 Active Member

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    some of them had a progressive twist in the rifling, it would start at say 1 in 25 & gradually tighten up. when these guns had the barrel shortened to be sporterized, which many of them did, the accuracy disappeared. best to try & find an original un altered one.

    the one I had cycled really well but wasn't real accurate, kinda looked like a shotgun pattern on the target at 100 yards. yes, mine was one the of shortened ones.
     
  7. SSGN_Doc

    SSGN_Doc Well-Known Member

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    There is a pretty good documentary where they duplicated the Oswald shots and wind conditions and the skull fracture patterns, the brain/blood spray patterns, and even the magic bullet all were reproduced on first shots from Oswald's position. They tried other theorized positions and systematically ruled them out.

    It was a pretty good show. Think it was called "Inside The Kennedy Car" or something like that.

    As far a Carcano's go. Finding a variety of sources for ammo, and the need to use a Mannlicher Carcano clip inside the mag for them to be a repeater, makes them a bit less desirable. Quality varied a bit through the years.
     
  8. therewolf

    therewolf New Member

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    I'm half tempted to sell you mine.

    In some circles, they are considered very

    accurate.

    They have progressive rifling.

    I can't get mine to cycle 2 additional rounds in under

    45 seconds, but you'd have to judge that for yourself.

    The government's never lied to us before, right?



    IMO, if you can get an M44, 91/38, or any other Mosin

    carbine, it's a far better rifle. There are clean Polish

    Mosin M44s available, which are unfired, and in near-mint condition.
     
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  9. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    As many documentaries as I watch, I'm thinking one of the half-dozen JFK assassination videos I've seen was the same one. I remember the magic bullet, but IMO, unless Oswald truthfully told them what happened, they're never gonna know for sure
     
  10. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    I still really like the Mosin rifle, but it just doesn't feel like it has the infamy of the Carcano that I'm looking for. And nah, I'll be searching for a semi-smooth bolt
     
  11. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    While the Mosin-Nagant is a better rifle with cheaper ammo if you have your heart set on a Carcano get one, I have 3 Steyr-Mannlicher's M95s and they are a similar design with expensive ammo but still fun and historical.
     
  12. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    Okay that's all I needed. I'll be starting a search, lol. Any idea what a reasonable price would be? I've seen from $200 to $400
     
  13. marc29th

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    Last on I saw about a month ago was $350. Looked to be in good shape but I didn't check bore or action as it was bolted down, I hate gun shops that do that.
     
  14. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    The ones I like to go to, will let you do what you want to check it out if you are seriously considering buying it
     
  15. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    I could have asked to take a look and it would not have been a big deal, but I was just browsing and didn't really need to see it.
     
  16. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    As far as historically significant, yes. The Carcano fill a slot in a collection. As far as a practical shooter or SHTF rifle, I wouls say a resounding NO!

    Ammo expensive and hard to find. Needs clips to be a repeater
     
  17. marc29th

    marc29th New Member

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    I've got a bandoleer full of Steyr-Mannlicher M95 en-block clips most were found on eBay, just did a quick look and there are Carcano en-bloxk clips available as well.



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  18. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    Just want it to take to the range every once in a bit, and a nice gun to have. As far as getting a SHTF rifle, well, that's what the other guns are for =)
     
  19. HankStone

    HankStone New Member

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    Farce,Farce JFK was assassinated by a sniper rifle,no WW2 Carcano wall hanger junk iron.
     
  20. 308Wins

    308Wins New Member

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    Any rifle a motivated Marine uses is a sniper rifle