Can anyone identify this pistol?

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Flatman6, Mar 1, 2013.

  1. Flatman6

    Flatman6 New Member

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    My mother in law got this gun from her father. He had brought it back from WWII. Any information you all can give me would be appreciated. On the slide it says
    FABRICATION FRANCAIS SYSTE BREVETE S.G.D.G.

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  2. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    Pretty sure it's French. But that's all I've got.
     

  3. DFlynt

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    I got nothing but I am sure C3shooter or Canebrake will be along soon with all you'll need to know! :D
     
  4. Renegade44

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    ATLAS Pocket pistol
     
  5. Olympus

    Olympus New Member

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    Pretty sure it's not an Atlas.
     
  6. orangello

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    It's a lot like one of the "baby Brownings" isn't it, probably a competitor.
     
  7. GrtWhytHype

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    It's a French made variation of the "Ruby pistols" made during WW1. You'd need more info on serial numbers and markings to find specific manufacturer because during that time it's was mainly individual gunsmiths that would make them. Breveté S.G.D.G. (sans garantie du gouvernement) in English means Patent Without Guarantee of the Government. If you can give more info I can try to narrow it down more.
     
  8. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    A rip off of a baby browning. The stylized "H" is intended to look like the "FN" on the genuine article. Such knock offs were common in France and (especially) Spain up to WWII.
     
  9. Flatman6

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    There is a small symbol.stamped on yhe slide that is too worn to make out, but is framed by what looks like "MARQUE" on top and "DEPOSEE" or " JEPOSEE" on the bottom.

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  10. c3shooter

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    Hourat et Vie. Little known gunmaker, operated in South of France in the 1930s. Yes, knockoff of the "Eiber" type pistol. Some of the machining may have been done in Eibar, Spain, and brought over into France for finish and assembly. Looks to be missing safety.

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  11. GrtWhytHype

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    And c3 saves me from stupidity once again! :-D

    I need all the help I can get these days.
     
  12. shouldazagged

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    Check A.B. Zhuk's Illustrated Encyclopedia Of Handguns: Pistols And Revolvers Of The World, 1870 To The Present. You'll find an amazing array of those knock-offs, and might even find that one.

    I can't get to my copy right now, or I'd check it for you.
     
  13. Flatman6

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    It is indeed missing the safety. Does qnyone know how to break this pistol down? Any chance I'll be able to find a replacement safety?
     
  14. c3shooter

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    You COULD win the Powerball lottery this week.


    Similar odds.
     
  15. 95sniper

    95sniper New Member

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    At first glance the logo on the grips look like "FN"
     
  16. gosenbach

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    I know that gun....

    It was manufactured by Manufacture d'Armes de Pyrenees of Hendaye, France. and is a "brand labeled" Unique Model 10. They made these and gave them individual names depending on what outlet was going to be selling them. There are over 125 different versions of this same pistol and the only difference was the lablel and in some cases the emblem on the grip. Mine was a "Gallia" I did a lot of research into this pistol trying to figure out what is was. If you like I can forward it to you.

    My Grandfather also brought it back from France (WWII). Unfortunately he lived in Canada and the US would not allow me to bring it across the border so I no longer have it.
     
  17. gosenbach

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