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No, that's cool. I wasn't mad. I was just curious. I always like to know when a gun owner of brand/model/design X wouldn't want me personally to be able to purchase brand/model/design Y.

I personally see no real need for the Glock pistol series in my world, but I wouldn't stop someone else from buying one and shooting the hell out of it if that is what they wanted.

Personally, I would love to have both a .408 Cheytac AND a .416 Barrett - for no other reason than of what "I COULD DO" with them if the Space Zombies ever show up. :rolleyes:

Just show them this picture.

That'll show them

 

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No, not possible... It did. Forensics concluded today it was one of his bullets that pierced through the top of the travel home and hit that lady.
Distance X=6,500 merters. That equates to 4.0388 miles. If it traveled five miles it had to have been fired at a high angle or it bounced off something at very high velocity and went high angle.

.50 caliber SLAP projectiles will easily travel five miles. Distance X for a .50 caliber SLAP projectile is 8,700 meters. Doubt that it was one of these.
 

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There was a guy dressed up as Quail Man for Halloween this year. Doug-related costumes are not the most universally-understood costumes you could choose, you know...

Oh, and this was local news, since it happened here. I want more details as this unfolds. I hope they keep us posted.
 

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The Lady Jill King and her husband Mel Moss are my aunt and uncle. I was at the race also but was already at the track.

It hit her in the arm after coming through the roof. Broke the bone in her arm and almost hit her artery. She was released thrusday from the hospital.

It looks like the guy that shot the gun was 700 Yards he said from his target and 2 1/2 miles from the track and that it hit the burn and
 

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Hello I'm new here.
The Lady Jill King and her husband Mel Moss are my aunt and uncle. I was at the race also but was already at the track.

It hit her in the arm after coming through the roof. Broke the bone in her arm and almost hit her artery. She was released thrusday from the hospital.

It looks like the guy that shot the gun was 700 Yards he said from his target and 2 1/2 miles from the track and that it hit the burn and
First off, welcome and thank you for taking the time to stop by and fill in some of the missing facts.

You have our sympathies in that your aunt was merely going about her normal life and was suddenly thrust into a situation that should have never happened.

There are several of our members here who feel the same way and hope that she makes a full, complete, & healthy recovery.

As for the facts of the shooting - 700 yards is a much more reasonable distance for target shooting with a round of that caliber, but I still stand behind the fact that the shooter should have had a much better backstop to insure an event like this did not happen.

As a responsible gun owner, it was his duty to insure the direction his weapon was pointed was safe and that the material into which he was firing was capable of successfully dispersing the energy of the round. Accidents do happen and we do not have the full story as to the shooting conditions, so I will leave it at that.

cox777 please keep us informed of your aunt's recovery and thank you again for taking the time to stop by and post.

JD
 

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I watched a video yesterday of that gun range where the incident occured. The "demo" weapon was a Vulcan .50 shooting at 700 yards. I am guessing the berm is 12" high and virtually every shot properly imbedded.

From what I could see, it was nothing more than a freak accident.

Channel 11 News story: http://cbs11tv.com/local/tms.bullet.investigation.2.858491.html
 

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Glad that the lady is going to get well. That round could have easily killed her if it had hit her in the head.

According to the news article the bullet came from 2.5 miles away.

Folks who know very little of their capability are buying .50 caliber guns and firing them on ranges that are inadequate for that round. Have never been near that Ft. Worth range. I will tell you that the US Army would not allow a .50 caliber Browning chambered weapon to be fired on that range.

The private weapons range on a military post was just closed because muzzleloader shooters loaded their guns with huge charges, had close in ricochets off the hard ground and bounced bullets over a hill located about 110 meters from the firing point. That hill is about 60-75 feet high. The bullets went into an occupied building and cars in a parking lot about .25-.5 miles away. This range had been in use for decades with few problems.
 

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I watched a video yesterday of that gun range where the incident occured. The "demo" weapon was a Vulcan .50 shooting at 700 yards. I am guessing the berm is 12" high and virtually every shot properly imbedded.

From what I could see, it was nothing more than a freak accident.
Okay, fair enough. Accidents happen. I still feel a 12" berm is a tad small for that type of long range shooting, but if all the test rounds had no problems, then it probably has been in place and accepted for years and years of use.

*off the soapbox*
 

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That's much more reasonable. I was on my soapbox because 7 inches at 700 is MOA. Cold bore alone could put the average shooter well over that 12" berm and have an incident. I never even gave thought that you might have meant 12 feet. :eek:

I fully retract my comments about irresponsible shooting procedures and offer a full retraction...

JD
 

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All in all my perspective is, the range is safe to use for high-powered rifles up to 300 H&H Magnum and "possibly" a 458 Win Mag. I would seriously think long and hard before capping one of these puppies there.
 

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Barrett 41 cal.

If the 50's are banned just go to the 416 cal. actually a better round
 

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All in all my perspective is, the range is safe to use for high-powered rifles up to 300 H&H Magnum and "possibly" a 458 Win Mag. I would seriously think long and hard before capping one of these puppies there.

You have been there: Thanks for your insight. That range does not meet the criteria for an Army .50 caliber range.
 

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I'm also glad to hear that she is ok. Also glad that the shooter had the gall stones to come forward and say that it might have been his bullet, you don't come across honesty like that much any more.

I'd like to add that saying a gun has no civilian use is wrong, the .50 and similar very high velocity cartridges are used for hunting large animals like elk in some states. I know 2 guys that I work with that both have Barrett .50 cal rifles and shoot them on Sundays at our workplace. We work in a limestone rock quarry, they shoot either into a very large pile of lime or into the mountain side.

Also I might add, the are a lot of politicians out there that say the beloved AR and it's variants have no civilian use. As well as the AK and other "assault rifles", that is one reason of many why they have been on the chopping block many times.
 

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The word "ASSAULT" is mis-used and generic in application, by ignorant anti-gunners. There's way too much of the generic assault crap going on. Obama thinks that anything that uses a magazine is an assault weapon... what a dipsh!t.
 

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