California Gun Laws

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Bilbo, Sep 13, 2013.

  1. Bilbo

    Bilbo New Member

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    I am soon moving to California (darn) and I am in a conundrum. With the severity of the CA gun laws I'm not sure whether to sell my guns before I move, hide them under the horizon, or comply with the laws and register them (and subject them to confiscation). The other problem is none of my mags will comply with CA law. And with the new laws going through the legislature it appears nothing will comply with the law. Any suggestions other than "don't move to California?" I don't really have a choice in that.
     
  2. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Condolences on the loss of your freedoms. You might get more specific responses in the CA state subforum.

    FWIW, I think 1911's are still mostly Kali Kosher.


    Not recommending this, but I will never register my firearms, regardless of applicable laws.
     

  3. NC1760

    NC1760 New Member

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    Cali gun laws ????

    Well friend... Move to North Carolina instead.
    Seriously though... If you have trusted kin or friends where you are, leave the guns with them to take care of... at least until you can figure out the local laws and whether or not you can make them comply with the (*!&^%$@) laws there. Regardless of what you decide, the LAST thing I would suggest is admitting to ownership and registration..... It's a real pickle to be in and I feel for you.
     
  4. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    It might help if you listed your favorite firearms that you own. Maybe some of them could be modified to comply (smaller mags)?
     
  5. robertusa123

    robertusa123 New Member

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    Hears a good businesses to start. Rent a store front just over the california boarder fill it with gun safes. And rent space for California Residents to store their now ilegal guns out of state where their still legal
     
  6. JW357

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    If you use a magazine which is more than 10 rounds for defensive purposes you basically become an instant criminal. Same with unregistered weapons.

    I'm not going to tell you to break the law. Buy a compliant magazine for each gun and register the one you will defend your home with. That's my advice.
     
  7. MisterMcCool

    MisterMcCool Well-Known Member Supporter

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    "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey, he is obligated to do so." --Benjamin Franklin
     
  8. FullautoUSA

    FullautoUSA Welcoming Committee/ Resident Pellet Gunner Lifetime Supporter

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    Reminds me of another good quote for this.


    "There are just laws and there are unjust laws. I would agree with St. Augustine that an unjust law is no law at all... One who breaks an unjust law must do it openly, lovingly...I submit that an individual who breaks a law that conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for law."

    Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. from Letters from a Birmingham Jail
     
  9. Garadex

    Garadex New Member

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    If you have someone whom you trust enough you can keep them stored out of state. No law that says you can't own them, just that you can't posses them. Also check out calguns.net they have a lot of info about all the laws in this crappy state.
     
  10. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    There are a number of place in Arizona that store guns for California residents. There are some in Yuma and Kingman. You will have to return to Arizona to shoot anyway. :)
     
  11. Automag30

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    An excellent book on California gun laws is: How to Own a Gun & Stay Out of Jail, California 2012 by John Machtinger, 192 pages (2007 edition which I have). It is published by www.gunlawpress.com but the 2012 edition appears to be sold out.

    http://www.abebooks.com has the following editions listed for sale: 2008, 2007 and 2006 any of which will be adequate for your needs.

    From the chapter entitled "Laws on Assault Weapons...:
    1. Before bringing the [assault] weapon into California, get a special permit from the DOJ [California Department of Justice] to possess it in California ...

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    2. Deliver the [assault] weapon to a specially-licensed gun dealer in California according to federal law. Then apply for a special permit from the DOJ. If the permit is issued [you should do some research to see what the odds are of that happening] the dealer will return the gun to you.

    Pending legislation classifying all semi-automatic center fire rifles with detachable magazines as assault weapons and thus banning the purchase and transfer of them is likely to become law in California. Living with 10 round capacity magazines is not going to ruin your life. Buying used hand guns that are not currently on the DOJ approved safety list must be done from a private party or be on consignment at a gun shop or show in California. The transaction must be done in person and picked up 10 to 30 days later in person. Or if the hand gun is on the BATF curio relic list it can be brought in from any state in the US to a local FFL. A Hand Gun Safety Certificate is required to receive a hand gun.

    Bob Bonta, assemblyman from Oakland introduced legislation earlier this year to confiscate all assault weapons but withdrew it because of the impact it would have on the national debate on gun registration. Surely we will see this bill again.

    The California Rifle and Pistol Association (www.crpa.org) is a good source of information on the status of pending (anti) gun legislation in Sacramento, as well as having a useful booklet summarizing California gun laws.

    My suggestion is to buy the Machtinger book and comply with the laws.

    Free advice from Menlo Park, CA
     
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