Buying firearms from Wal-mart.

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Hadouken, Mar 8, 2011.

  1. Hadouken

    Hadouken New Member

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    So somebody mentioned on the site that Wal-mart's firearm selection is made up of cheaply made models of the same firearms you can purchase at Academy Sports, Dicks or your local gun shop. I don't see how this is possible, I really don't think any of the firearm companies would go out of their way to make an even cheaper version of the same rifle just to sell at wal-mart. I could be wrong, but I would like to hear some stories and possibly picture proof.
     
  2. CA357

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    I can't tell you about what Walmart sells. I'm in Kalifornia and we can barely get ammunition at one.

    Back in the day there used to be Western Auto, Montgomery Wards, Sears-Roebuck and some others I can't rightly remember. Companies like Marlin and Winchester and Savage manufactured slightly downscaled versions of their firearms.

    For instance, if a Marlin lever action had checkering on the pistol grip and forearm, it was left off of the rifle sold at Monkey Wards. Maybe instead of a gold color trigger, it was black. So, the differences were for the most part purely cosmetic.

    The names were different as well. As far as I know, Ted Williams never manufactured a firearm, but you could buy a Ted Williams rifle at Sears. Harrington Richardson sold their guns at Sears labeled as J.C. Higgins.

    You get the idea. So, if you can get a good enough price, it's good quality and you like the gun, buy it.
     
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  3. Eric0424

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    The rifles me and some friends bought from Wal-Mart were/are the same rifles everyone else sells. Sometimes one retailer will have an exclusive item sold only in their stores, for example, a few years ago Dick's had an exclusive thumb-hole stocked Savage rifle that wasn't supposed to be available anywhere else at the time. Other than exclusive items like that the rest are build in the same factory, buy the same people as any other weapon sold to other retailers. There's no secret Wal-Marlin or Rem-Mart plant turning out cheaper guns.

    The Model 60, 917V and Savage 110 I've bought are the same rifles sold elsewhere. As CA357 pointed out, years ago things were a little different, but those rifles were not branded as Marlins, but it's not like that anymore. Everything is sold under the names of Marlin, Savage, Remington etc..
     
  4. pioneer461

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    Some people really get off by trashing Wal Mart. I suppose it makes them somehow feel superior or more intelligent.

    Firearm and ammo makers sell their products through Wal Mart, which is just another retail outlet. Wal Mart gets the same quality gun and ammo products as everyone else. If any manufacturer were to knowingly sell inferior products, regardless of where they were sold, they would be open to massive legal liability issues.

    I worked for Leupold a few years back. While there, Leupold began marketing a new line of scopes, called Rifleman. The Rifleman line of scopes were / are identical in every way to the VX-1 models. The only difference is the name, and a bit lower quality packaging. That's it! The same quality and workmanship went into them, and the no B.S. Leupold warranty applied as well.

    The Rifleman scopes are / were marketed for shooters on a budget, and the initial offering to the public was through Wal Mart, where the marketing folks believed the shooters on a budget were more likely to shop. They made a big deal that the Rifleman series was the first Leupold scope sold under $200.00. That was a few years ago. They still make them, but I doubt they are still under $200.00.

    I get a check from Leupold every month, but I miss the employee discounts.
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  5. Hawg

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    Wal Mart has some very nice guns. There's a Marlin 336 at one of the local ones that's Stainless Steel with a heavy barrel I'd love to have even if it does have a synthetic stock (I hate synthetic). It also carries a price tag of 690.00.:(
     
  6. orangello

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    I thought the recently recalled Federal ammo was all from WallyWorld? I also seem to remember reading something about Federal going to small pistol primers for this product that was to be sold only at WallyWorld. It is ENTIRELY possible that i misunderstood.

    Some of Wally's wares are not the same item available elsewhere. I wouldn't buy a lawnmower there due to old news about Briggs & Stratton using differently specced engines for their WallyWorld products. I buy lots of stuff at Wally's, just not lawnmowers or some tools and electronics. Wally's is reknowned for haggling suppliers down year after year on price and demanding specific packaging and such; this was key in the Vlasic pickle company troubles http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/77/walmart.html . Walmart is a for-profit business, not a charity to look out for the U.S. consumer.
     
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  7. nate

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    My first 870 I had I got a wally world was junk (but so was the second one that didnt come from there). The Savage 93 17hmr I got from there was also junk. I'm not say it is or isn't true thats just my experiance with walmart guns.
     
  8. Poink88

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    A few manufacturers indeed make different products for Walmart. They might look the same but the innards aren't. Even electronics, these help them keep their advertised price guarantee ...because you cannot find an exact one anywhere. Chainsaws, & other power tools are also very likely candidates.
     
  9. cpttango30

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    The guns and ammo you buy at walmart are the same thing you would get anywhere else. Sorry the cost in retooling an entire plant to suite walmarts ammo needs would not be cost affective. They don't have a million chinese kids with dillon 1050's makin ammo here people. They have massive machines that cost LOTS and LOTS of money to build, buy and operate.

    Same with the guns. They may be the ones that barley pass QA go to walmart but they are not going to knowling inferior products on the shelves at walmart.

    BTW Target has lower prices that walmart anymore. By about 2 to 3%...

    JUST SAYING
     
  10. Sniper03

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    The Federal Ammunition recall was across the board. One of my best friends works for ATK who owns Federal and I had called him when I saw the recall. The recall was issued by Federal/ATK and the only thing involving Wal-Mart was the fact that they also had stocked some of that ammunition. As far as the Rifles and Shotguns sold at Wal-Mart. None are built at reduced quality for Wal-Mart! They may handle some of the companies product line that is the lesser expensive guns.That because of sportsmen hunting for a less expensive rifle like the Remington 770 for example over the Remington 700 CDL. But they are the same weapons sold at the local gun shop.

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  11. spittinfire

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    I've gotten several guns from walmart because after deciding what I wanted and shopping around they had the best price.

    As far as the Federal ammo recall is concerned, I called Federal after getting a box of 45acp with small pistol primers. I was told that Federal Champion is made in one of two plants and is made for Walmart using plated bullets. I did see them show up in Gander Mountain recently though.
     
  12. cpttango30

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    It is called cost cutting.

    To keep ammo at or around the same price now as before the stupid $105 oil race began and the metal prices went through the roof they have to keep cost down somewhere.

    I am sure we can all agree that cutting the salary of the workers.
     
  13. Eric0424

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    If I had that kind of luck with Wally's rifles I would be weary of them too. The three I've bought, a Savage 110 in 270-Win, Marlin 917V and a Model 60 have all been good rifles. The Savage 30-06, Mossberg 702 Plinkster and a NEF 7mm-08 a friend bought were fine too. All these rifles happen to have been purchased in a six month span in 2006.
     
  14. Sniper03

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    45 ACP Small Primer Information

    Orangello,

    Federal has made some ammunition in 45 ACP and test marketed it a the Wal-Mart and some other stores.
    In the near future just for the members information. The small primer for the 45 ACP will be in full production in the future. Due to the fact that with the modern day powders it is not necessary to have large primers in the 45 ACP. How soon before they fully implement this I do not know at the present. But do know they are producing some now. That is the plan. The ammunition has performed the same as it does with the large primers according to tests.

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  15. Wambli

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    That same nonsense line has been echoed by many small retailers that can not compete against the big box stores. I have spoken to several manufacturers about it and they said that if it's the same model number it is the same gun. For liability reasons it has to be that way. NOW that being said there are special runs of bulk ammo and other items that are specially branded and packaged for WalMart but they are CLEARLY different branding than the standard items.
    These items achieve their lower price point form bulk purchases not usually lower quality. There were some Remington bulk .22s that had issues with not enough priming compound in their rims and they had a bigger than average number of misfires. That was a quality control issue, not specific to any one retailer but the fact that a lot of that ammo was sold through WalMart helped fuel this myth..
     
  16. Hawg

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    Sears too but that's not guns.
     
  17. MOSE

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    Lord, Lord, another staunch Confederate (thank God)

    I haven't bought firearms from Walmart, but, years ago, I bought several
    from K-Mart.....Including a couple of Radom P-35 9mm pistols and a splendid
    Savage .222/20 Gauge over and under.

    Both the Radoms were Nazi Waffenamet marked.....One shot well, and the other turned
    itself into junk with 1 box of Remington-Peters 9mm ammunition.

    Now, with the perils of living on Social Security, I buy ammunition from
    Walmart......My only complaint about them is the clerks are downright
    stupid , and don't know their Merchandise......

    I still wish I had that good 9mm Radom. (it was slotted for a shoulder
    stock)......Very early Nazi......I could make 500% profit on it in the blink
    of an eye.(at today's prices)

    I've never noticed any qualitative differences between Walmart firearms
    and anybody else's.
     
  18. Bigcountry02

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    I have a Remington 700 VTR .223 from Walmart in 2008 for little over $630 amount. I had to special order the rifle from their catalog at the store. They were cheaper than Sportsman's Warehouse at the time. Not all Walmarts sell firearms, just ammo. Some will sell firearms that is on-stock only, need to ask!
     
  19. scubapro48

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    I have never seen any firearms at Walmarts except Paintball guns

    Never seen any firearms at any Walmart, just ammo & paintballs guns
     
  20. rjgnwdc

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    Always the best price... almost always

    I bought my Remington 870 Express at Walmart back in the mid 80's because it was by far the best OTD price in Fort Worth TX and has dropped a many dove, quail and pheasant without a single hiccup.