Buying a collectors M1 Carbine

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Bbull21, Feb 7, 2016.

  1. Bbull21

    Bbull21 New Member

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    I sold my inland shooter M1 Carbine today. I think I made out very well and want to put that money towards a collectors, non shooter carbine. Any suggestion on good places to purchase one? I've been looking around but any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    m1 carbines & garands really arent "collectable". reason being there are a LOT of actual issued sets of stamping dies for these guns out there. same is true of most makes of the m1911. LOTS of fakes out there that are indistinguishable from the real deal.

    if your looking to purchase firearms with resale value in mind the only real investment guns lay in the full auto nfa world of things.

    my advice contact fulton armory and get like new carbine and have fun. it will come with an original usgi reciever and new everything else and look like it was just pulled out of a shipping container from 1943.

    if you bought a few in 1982 and sold em now you might have cleared 1000$ a piece. thats around a 5% profit on a 30 year investment. semi autos and non nfa guns have pretty much topped out in value.

    now in the nfa world an m16 in 1982 was around 900$ today they sell for around 30,000$ thats around 11% interest. there is no other investment other than machine guns that offer a nearly gauranteed 11% return with zero risk to principal on resale... nfa machine guns will not lose value as there will never be more and demand always increases. each year a few are lost to breakage and an ever increasing number of buyers ensures they will not top out in price

    want to invest in something go nfa
     
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  3. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Jon,

    There are a few non NFA that are collectible.

    Pre-64 model 70 Super Grade "African" (.375 H&H, .458 WinMag) in NIB or LNIB are very hard to fake and worth a fortune.

    1873,1876, 1886 AND 1895 Winchesters in Excellent+ to LNIB

    Early S&W 27 and 29, unfired NIB, especially in original presentation case.

    But in the general case you're correct. NFA is the best investment by far.
     
  4. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    i was speaking more in terms of milsurps. but even the ones you mention have a very limited appeal and a shrinking customer base. very hard to sell at good prices.
     
  5. samnev

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    I have to disagree with the idea there no M! carbines that are collectable. The M1A1 Paratrooper is very collectable. With the info out their on correct serial number range and correct markings if one knows what to look for the chance of getting scammed are quite low.

    Two good resources are Larry Ruth's book on the M1 Carbine and the Collector Grade book "War Baby"
     
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  6. Bbull21

    Bbull21 New Member

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    How about a gun that will rise in value over 10-15 years, rather then a collectible gun?
     
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  7. 303tom

    303tom Well-Known Member

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    No matter what firearm it is, they all go up in value & if they go illegal they could be worth a mint on the black market !.............
     
  8. Dallas53

    Dallas53 Well-Known Member

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    just a couple of quick question on the subject of the M1 carbine.

    I would like to have one myself, but just for the enjoyment of shooting it and for plinking, so i'm not looking for a collector grade or even care about it being a numbers matching gun. not even concerned with whether it increases in value in the future or not either.

    what brand, and what should be a reasonable price to pay for one?
     
  9. speezack

    speezack New Member Supporter

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    I just traded an M1 Garand and an M1 Carbine for an M1A1 Scout (M14) I had to pay a little boot in the trade but both the Garand and the Carbine were Springfields, both issued to the troops back late in WWII and both had seen limited service. Neither were of the rare models... simply standard issued weapons to the troops.

    I don't know what either of these guns is bringing in your neck of the woods but around here, you can usually find either, in good working condition for less than $1k. They are not difficult to locate... the gun shop that I often deal with in Richmond, for example, has at least 3 or 4 on their shelves most of the time.
     
  10. Bbull21

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    I just sold my inland with a sanded stock for $950. I have 2 m14's, scout model. I am looking to part with one if anyone is interested.
     
  11. Ibmikey

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    Unless you got an absolute fortune for the Carbine I would think it a bad move selling it.....Actually I love the little rifles and think it is a bad move period. CMP just released 2000 carbines and received 5000 orders the first day, good condition rebuilt non import marked Carbines will reach astronomical prices in the years to come.
     
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  12. Bbull21

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    This might be true, the inland was mine for awhile and I knew the condition. Stock and bore had issues. Most collectors, condition is everything.