Buying A .45 Osprey Suppressor But A Little Disappointed Before I Get It

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by ryevick, Dec 22, 2012.

  1. ryevick

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    I'm buying a .45 Osprey suppressor for my Sig Sauer 1911 Tacops TB after many recommendations on the Osprey... I just paid for the suppressor this afternoon even though they wont get it shipped until next week sometime after Christmas. I should have done this before but I just ran across a video here demonstrating the Osprey and I must say it's a little disappointing... it cut down the db's only by about 30 but it's still averaging 135/6 db which is equivalent to a VERY loud stereo... not exactly subtle or even to the point that I wont still need ear protection when using it... really bummed out about this :( ... this is what was so highly recommended?!? I did see videos like this also that show more of what I'm looking for. I assume the first video is not sub-sonic ammo and the second is? He didn't say if it was wet or not. What ammo specs qualifies as sub-sonic?
     
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  2. willfully armed

    willfully armed New Member

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    Subsonic is less than 1126 feet per second.
     

  3. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Most .45 ACP fired from a handgun or SMG is subsonic. Have you checked the specs for other brands?
     
  4. HOSSFLY

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    Opps-.............
    Just uppin my post count :eek:
     
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  5. JonM

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    Decibel reduction isnt linear as in 1 to 1 it works more like the fuschita earthquake scale. Most other brands offer less than 30 decibel reduction when run wet. Then there is the little problem of first round pop in any surpressor. Its not like in the movies where all you hear is this idiotic whizz. It still sounds like a gunshot just not a very loud one.

    The osprey is one of the better handgun suppressors out there ive seen em used in person and ive been lusting after em i think your damn lucky to be getting one. Everytime i find one its been sold before i could finish the order.

    Ive got two suppressors a surefire for 308 or rather my wife has it and a silencerco sparrow.
     
  6. crazycharlie2

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    What do you mean by running wet? Lubrication?
     
  7. JonM

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    Its where the term wetwork comes from. Put a little water in a suppressor and shake it out then its stupid quiet for a couple of shots. Wire pulling gel is often used nowadays instead of water. It lasts longer and doesnt get into the barrel of the gun.

    Ive tried it a couple times and its a huge difference but a pain in the butt to keep doing it.
     
  8. ryevick

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    if you watch both video clips i linked it's the same 45 suppressor but night and day difference in the decibel levels... the second one is really suppressed with no hearing protection needed... i suppose the louder first video is a new one and the second one has "build up" helping the suppression is all i can figure...

    also the company from the first video has them in stock at a good price too...
     
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  9. ryevick

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    not yet... i will though...
     
  10. ryevick

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    i've heard gel is not recommended as it will gunk up the suppressor in a bad way and hard to clean it out
     
  11. JonM

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    there is no real standard for suppressed firearms testing it depends on the tester and the location. under cover in certain areas the accustics can be bad and shooting my scar17 supressed can be quite loud in more open terrain all you hear is the slamming of the action going back forth and the loud crack of the supersonic 308 going down range. i can tell you shooting indoors on a indoor range surpressed vs non supressed is sometimes hard to tell the diff. get outside exact same gun and ammo its amazing how quiet it actually is.


    i dont use either in mine i tried water as a lark but i dont like messes so i run em dry. you did make a great choice on the osprey. videos dont lend well to listening to the difference between supressed and non supressed firearms. if they did you would have to wear hearing protection when watching clips of nonsupressed guns being fired...
     
  12. msup752

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    I got my 9mm can a few months ago. I load my own subsonic rounds with VV 320. The suppressed shots are hearing safe but do get louder indoors or between the berms at the outdoor range. I can go outside my house and shoot and my wife cannot hear it inside.
    My neighbor has a boxer that barks a lot and that can be heard everywhere in the house and the dog is 300' away.
    Cans make a huge difference. I have yet to regret mine and have more on the way.
     
  13. ryevick

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    i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the logic of it all... why would being indoors so greatly reduce the ability of the suppressor to perform... i understand why unsuppressed fire greatly increases in volume indoors but not suppressed... i mean going from the differences between to two videos i linked just because one was indoors just doesn't seem logical... i suppose i will just have to wait until i get the suppressor and see for myself... i hate it though because the main reason i bought the threaded barrel 1911 was of course for a suppressor but to be used as a bedside hd weapon, God forbid i ever have to use it... my hearing is shot with major tinnitus... i suppose i need to find the ammo that would could be suppressed the most but still be effective in an hd situation... suggestions on that would be appreciated...
     
  14. JonM

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    its the same thing as firing unsuppressed indoors vs out. surpressed indoors is louder than supressed outdoor to your ears. 45acp in 230grain is an ideal suppressor bullet loading because its subsonic without any messing around.

    its hard to describe without experiencing shooting one. ive fired my ar15 surpressed indoors and its not bad at all. firing one indoors unsuppressed without hearing protection is ungodly.

    the reduction of sound volume is enourmous and it really tames that concussive blast of the 45auto cartridge
     
  15. ryevick

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    maybe if i stacked a couple of suppressors in a row firing through a few potatoes and pillows i could finally have something that would be kind to my ears indoors :D i really am bummed about all this... i probably wouldn't have bothered if i would've known all this before...
     
  16. ryevick

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    i will be optimistic though... it's got good reviews even in this thread... i was told the gov't has just doubled the staff that is filing the paperwork for suppressors so the time frame should be cut in half to about 3 months instead of 6... kind of interesting though don't you think that the obama administration allowed that? things just are never what they seem to be...
     
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  17. ryevick

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    i was really tired when i read this post from you... i completely misread it... good to know...
     
  18. 2manyhobbies

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    :eek:don't believe the video....:eek:

    I have an Osprey on my HK USP full sized .45 acp and the gun is so quiet at the range you mostly only hear the action operate.;)

    just a real light pop on the first round and once the O2 is depleted in the chambers it is nothing more than the clack of the action operating.... :D

    Oh an do not forget to buy the thread adapter before you take delivery.... It's kind of a pain to install but once you grasp the concept is is kinda easy.;)

    Somebody asked about "WET SUPPRESSORS" some may require you to slosh water around inside them for maximum effect, and to help protect the baffle media... the Osprey is not one of these animals.
    Although it is not recommended can be dissembled for cleaning, according to what I have read after 500,000 rounds you may wish to but it is not necessary...
     
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  19. sixgun shorty

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    It's a good suppressor, though slab sided, not round and will fit in a holster.A 30 db reduction is about all you can expect form most suppressors..most 45 cans are normally wet suppressors and require an ablative (heat dissapating agent) for max sound reduction.
    Personally, I prefer the Gemtech Blackside 45 suppressor...the best in the business
     
  20. ryevick

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    what adapter? i shouldn't need one... it's threaded to the same specs as my barrel