Buying a 37mm , any advice ?

Discussion in 'NFA/Class 3 & FFL Discussion' started by MobileMarine, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. MobileMarine

    MobileMarine New Member

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    Ok i fell in love with the B&D launcher this weekend and im trading my beretta 92 stainless with alloy frame and org case for it in brand new condition . I know what its worth but i got it for 300.00 and I already have taurus 92 and i think they shoot better than its high class counter part . I think its going to be a bad ass addition to my flock of arms , what do you guys think ?
    http://batesanddittus.com/UBL-37_Launcher.html
     
  2. Frank827

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    Any specific reason why you want this one? Spikes tactical has one just like this one for a better price and it looks better IMO. Unless the one you showed has some sort of extra features check out the havoc 37MM on spikes website.
     

  3. texaswoodworker

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    Wait, Do you have to go through the class 3 thing to buy one of those? I know you can't get the actual explosive grenades, but do you have to go through the same process that you would for a MG? If you do, then why are the grenade launchers on an SKS or a MAS excluded from this? I'm confused. :confused: :p
     
  4. JonM

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    40mm is a nfa destructive device or aow im not sure which. 37mm is not. They are considered flare launchers regardless of how they look.
     
  5. MobileMarine

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    yep , i did a even trade this morning on the deal , got a box of orange smokers , got to the shop , showed it off , went out back to fire one off into a concrete mound , missed the mound , hit the dirt and skipped over a 30ft tall shop , hit the ground again and landed on a customers thunder birds back bumper .:eek:
    They have alot more punch than i thought they would , im going to go hide now
     
  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Lolololol!!!!!
     
  7. texaswoodworker

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    Thank you for clarifying that. :)
     
  8. texaswoodworker

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    ROFLMAO!!! did it do any damage to the car? Were they pissed? :D
     
  9. trip286

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    Subscribed to thread. Seems like my kind of episode.
     
  10. jamesb

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    So is there paperwork or a tax stamp on this or can you just buy a 37mm flare launcher for your AR?
     
  11. purehavoc

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    so is this thing spring actuated ? I couldnt find that info on the site
     
  12. JonM

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    37mm is not a firearm from what i understand. no paper work involved. its a flare launcher. you can buy a flare launcher at most sporting goods stores and walmarts. the are considered a safety device in most places.

    just be careful with them. they can still kill or cause massive damage. your just as responsible for shooting a flare off as shooting a bullet.

    http://www.manufacturing.net/news/2009/08/guilty-plea-in-wisconsin-meatpacking-plant-fire

     
  13. MobileMarine

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    Im more alert to where im shooting this thing than i am with a gun . it burned the bumper a bit but most of it washed off , the customer was not there and since it was a ragged tbird we forgot to mention it :D . They have quite abit of thump to them and im only shooting the 26's . We did a even trade and a handshake , not the first bit of paper work , he pulled it out of the display , boxed it back up and handed it to me , i shoved it in my saddle bag and went on my way . Pops was NOT a happy camper about that , im almost 30 but i felt about 2ft tall and about 3 years old . Think im going to buy a butt stock for it and maybe a sight like a big circle with a cross hair in it since its loaded up with rails . Ill take it to the quarry tomar and see how it does unrestricted . Talk about a toy to get in trouble with , kids or a grown man . Ill be giving american specialty ammo some handfulls of money here soon
     
  14. sniper762

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  15. MobileMarine

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    No it has a powder charge in the projectile i assume is equal to 12ga shot shell round . Maybe 80-90 grains of powder . Some sites i have looked at that sell reloadable rounds say not to use smokeless but to use black powder or its equal.
    From what i have read , they sell 12ga FLARE adapters with no paper work but its too short for a reg 12ga round to be fired out of ...... cough mini rounds cough cough .... You need a form 1 or 4 to buy the real 12ga adapter since it would then be made into a aow or destructive device . Or a mini lathe could make you anything you wanted for it .:D
    I thought about a full length 50bmg adapter but with out a butt stock it would not be used friendly lmao .
    They can be used for firworks or '' pyrotechnics '' IF you know what your doing , which I do not when it comes to that side so naturally im scurred of doing it , some of the ingrediants are some bad ju ju and can really mess your day up if you mishandle them . How bad would it suck for your newly made round to explode in the tube your holding ? spewing burning sulfur and A.L and other nasty stuff in your face . It would be cool to load one with tannerite but the fps is not fast enough to do anything other than wast it . I may do some stuff that is border line with our friends over the atf but making a home brew redneck 37mm grenade or firework is not somthing i care to play with and would leave to our boys in uniform . But i would love to have some real ones .
    Im a newbie on these things but from what i have seen so far they can be worse than a firearm . A gun you can shoot into a tree or dirt mound and its done , these things have enough ass behind them to bounce around starting fires and burning bumpers on thunderbirds :eek: And big cloud of orange smokes kinda gives you away , no guessing where it came from like a gun shot would
     
  16. MobileMarine

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    Here is a great video i found for the 37mm and the loads .
    I bet that thing would be nasty with a #6 shot shell in it .
    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2U6O2l8HM0[/ame]
     
  17. c3shooter

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    The 37mm (as said) is a flare launcher. The 40mm is a WEAPON. 37mm is not NFA. The 40 mm is a Destructive Device. This is due to the bore diameter. Bigger than .50 cal, no recognized sporting purpose. The launchers on Garands and Yugo SKS arms do not contain a grenade inside of it, and miss that designation. Technically those were (I believe) a "spigot mortar". Grenade slides down OVER the launcher.

    On my boat I have a small 12 g flare launcher. It is smoothbore, has about a 5 inch barrel, and is NOT an NFA (short barreled shotgun) because it cannot fire a regular shotshell (well, it CAN- one time!)

    PS- to anyone reading that owns a lathe, and is considering turning an insert adapter to permit a 37mm to fire real ammo-
    #1- not rifled? You just made an unregistered short barrel shotgun. Say hello to Bubba for me.
    #2. While your insert may be uber strong, the ACTION of the 37mm is made to handle the MUCH lower pressures of a flare launcher ( 90 grains of pyrodex is less than I use in my Hawken) When the action fails and disassembles itself, say hello to Doc down at the ER for me.
     
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  18. MobileMarine

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    Yea , dont know if I would have mentioned you can mill out the lip on the 12ga adapter on you tube .
    I would love to start loading my own but I know just enough to be dangerous so until I learn the load data the Launcher sits at my desk and is acting as a conversation piece , I am already in the pot , no need to stir it or boil it
     
  19. sniper762

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    no extra paperwork than for the ar, note you, as a civilian cannot legally posess an explosive grenade of ANY type. flare, smoke or gas ok
     
  20. MobileMarine

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    When I went to buy mine I pulled my DL out ready for the paper work and its just like buying milk , they dont need anything .