Bushcraft

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by jungleman, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. jungleman

    jungleman New Member

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    Hi. Thought I would start with something a tad different.
    If you were going into the woods say for 7 days, what equipment would you take to enable you to survive.
    You can take your 1st days water and food supplies with you but after that what would you do. I will assume that for a start you have a small amount of water nearby, where you intend to pitch.I will try and tell you what possibilities I would do, in the exact same circumstances.as we go along.

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  2. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    I'm in. I'll have to post my supply list later.
     

  3. jungleman

    jungleman New Member

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    I would just add however, due to our Countries different meanings of some words/terms,etc, they may have to be expounded on at times.
    Thanks for your understanding.

    Jungleman.
     
  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Would be driven by the climate where I will be, and the season. If I have something for shelter from wind, and firemaking ability, my next concern is water (I can tighten my belt for several days (some of us, several WEEKS!:)) but you WILL need water. In areas with streams or lakes, I use a PUR backpackers filter. About the size of a can of soup, will clean over 1000 gallons of water. Add a canteen, canteen cup, and water and basic cooking is covered. And salt and a knife.

    THEN it begins to get interesting. Are we living entirely off the land- and if so, what land? Fish, game, edible plants, muggable pizza delivery guys?
     
  5. BlindOldMan

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    My first concern is always water. I perspire a lot, and during the Florida summer the heat can get ugly. Though I try not to camp at those times, on occasion I've gone out during July/September. If I don't have my own water, having a metal pot that can boil two cups of water is my first item.

    To boil water I need fire. First choice is my Coleman lighter (no longer manufactured). I have several others, but I have yet to find one as good as the Coleman. Firesteels are handy, can work when wet, don't leak butane, and are durable. So a lighter and a firesteel, definitely. Matches also, but all mine have crumpled boxes. Having some dry tinder is nice too. Cotton balls work as does dryer lint. People recommend cotton balls in petroleum jelly stuffed in a small jar. It works, but I've never gotten around to carrying them. In the Florida rainy season it's a chore finding dry tinder. It's easy to get fresh water though :D If I don't have my mini camp stove, then I'd also need something to chop wood such as an axe or a big blade (e.g., machete).

    Once water is taken care of, shelter is nice. I think most folks recommend getting the shelter first, but if I didn't find water quickly I'd perish. Anyhoo, if I didn't have a tent, I suppose that I could fashion a debris hut. Who am I kidding? I need a tent. There are a few that weigh just a few ounces, even some with inflatable supports. Anything that will keep the rain and bugs out, cover the ground, and keep you warm would be better than a debris hut.

    I'll post a pic of my gear in a few... The rest is just stuff for finding where I am and where I'm going, sustenance, emergency, and recreation. E.g., compass/GPS and map, collapsible rod/reel, a plant field guide, wildlife field guide, and some puzzle books, cards, and obviously the most important items: the coffee making kit.
     
  6. Ploofy

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    Whats the weather? Whats the terrain? Is your goal to be rescued or just survive?
     
  7. jungleman

    jungleman New Member

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    Weather, mixed fine with rain at times, location woods with plenty of trees and cover, terrain, wherever you decide to pitch, (Obviously not in a dried up river bed just because it may be smoother to camp /sleep on.you would be in deep water if the heavens opened up!! your out to enjoy yourself, andd get a bit of peace and quiet, a bit of "Me" time, as we say.Just an excercise to see you survive the week.

    Jungleman.
     
  8. jungleman

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    Hi Curtis, Pizzas a definate NO. NO. You can fish, but what sort of fish, ie, Sea, small Brown Brook Trout, rainbow, or what, each will need a different load of tackle, but do you realy want to add more weight to what you intend to carry?.There is a good alternative way.;)

    Jungleman.
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Tackle? #8 blasting caps are fairly light, take up very little room....:D

    Just for fun fishing, we usually toss a metal band-aid tin in the pack. A few lures, hooks for live bait, very small bobbers (floats) and about 100 ft of line. If you MUST have a pole- go cut one.

    You have given a fair description of some soul-examining time on the Appalachian Trail in good weather. In temperate weather, we would do-5-7 days starting with about 40 lbs, including shelter, sleeping gear, food and water. If you are not familiar with the AT, beautiful hiking trail, Eastern side of the US, about 2,181 miles if you want to do the whole thing. A bit less weight if we did not have kids along.
     
  10. bkt

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    It's an odd premise to have such limited water and food. My bug-out bag would feed me for the better part of a week easily and give me a day and a half of water without refilling pretty easily. Assuming I had a water source (rain, stream) I'd purify water with a filter bottle (Berkey sport).

    Assuming I swapped my food in my BoB for a .22, squirrel would always be an option. I keep fishing line, lures and hooks in the bag and live near Lake Ontario, so fishing would be an option, too.
     
  11. oli700

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    Ruger 10/22 magnum/200 rounds
    Good knife
    Magnesium/flint fire starter
    Any fishing line I could get/ small hooks
    Canteen with metal cup
    Columbia titanium/zip in fleece liner
    Wool bdu pants
    Under Armor top/bottom
    4 pair wool socks
    Danner super rainforest size 13


    I have lived in the Pacific Northwest all my life and believe I could get it done with this. Water, game, wood is abundant. .22 will get most things worth eating with good shot placement, Streams are abundant so there is water and fish. I find local insects make the best bait and boil the water in the metal cup to drink. Finding what we call a pitch stump, fat wood to some is a guaranteed easy fire. If not there is always sheltered dead wood in the forest, moss, cat tails. Shelter would be a lean-to style made from 2 to 3 inch diameter poles.Honestly ,if I had to, I think I could go far beyond 7 days with this. In reality for seven days you don’t have to eat. Priority is shelter, water,fire, food. Most people that die in the woods around here if from exposure far before thirst and starvation......or am I totally off on what this thread is about ?
     
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  12. mrm14

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    O.K. I'll play.
    Heres a fair list of my basic gear and what I pack when on a week or so trek in the Sierra mountains.

    Osprey Aether 70 back pack, REI Quarter Dome T3 tent, Footprint mat for tent, Marmot goose down vented mummy bag, compression sack mummy bag, insulated air core mat for sleeping bag, small LED lantern for inside tent, headband LED headlight, MSR Dragonfly camp stove, (2) 20 oz fuel bottles for stove, MSR Mini Waterworks water filtration, iodine tabs with neutralizer for water, Camelback water reservoir for backpack, (3) 32 oz. Nalgene bottles, Tea strainer for Nalgene bottles, titanium flatware set (spoon, fork, knife), (1) folding metal spatula, (1) mini wisk, (2) 20 liter folding buckets, REI 4 piece titanium cook ware set, (1) 12" titanium frying pan, (1) 22 oz. fold flat bowl, (2) light weight metal coffee cups, Small poleythylene cutting board, (2) 2.5 oz. bottles of Jungle Juice (DEET), Light weight steel folding hand shovel, (2) Sewdish fire steels, K-BAR Short knife, 15" folding Sven Saw, (1) large microfiber ultra light pack towel, (1) small microfiber ultra light pack towel, (2) rolls biodegradeable TP, compass, maps, Kestrel 4500 pocket weather meter, (1) tube electrolyte sport drink tabs, (6) packs Starbucks VIA instant coffee, (3) packs Starbucks instant cocoa, 5 piece fly rod with carry tube, fishing flies, fly dressing wax, Tear drop clippers (for trimming fishing line and good for fingernails and toenails), a proper first aid kit, 100' of mule tape, 50' paracord, light weight foldable tri pod stool, lithium ion batteris, wet stone for blade edges, light weight hammock with optional bug net, collapsible hiking poles, small tube of body wash, SPF 50 sun blocker, bear canister for food stuffs.

    For food seasonings and sauces I have small plastic water tight containers in which I carry salt, pepper, suger garlic powder, Tobasco, Tampatco hot suauce, malted viniger, balsamic viniger, McCormick Roasted Garlic & Herb seasoning, dehydraded chopped onions, freeze dried chives, and poultry seasoning. Also carry 1/2 pint of extra virgin light olive oil for frying and small quanity of lemon juice.

    For food I pack an assortment of Mountain house and MaryJanes Farm freeze dried packs, Quaker Oats just add water oatmeal packs, and some boil in the bag brown and white rice that I stuff into the water tight the bear canister.

    Total pack weight including light weight hi tech clothing, which I didn't bother listing above, for the last 10 day trip was just a tad over 52 lbs. The trip before the last 10 day trip was for 5 days and pack weight for me then was 38 lbs.

    When we go on these treks we fish the high altitude lakes, rivers, and streams and usually do pretty good with just fishing for food but it's nice to pack other food stuffs and seasonings to go with it. Actually, anything that crawls, walks, flys, or grows is fair game for food as long as you know that you can and cannot eat.
     
    Last edited: Apr 26, 2011