[potentialglock]

Anybody have any experience with installing a bullet guide? I get the concept however I'm mildly nervous about doing it without any experience. Hints, tips, and any other help would be appreciated.

 

[AleksiR]

Are you installing a bullet guide you bought somewhere or are you making it yourself? Making one yourself is fairly easy and mounting a bullet guide you already have is even easier.

 

[potentialglock]

I'll be mounting one I bought

 

[AleksiR]

Then there's really not much to it. If it came with instructions, use those. If it didn't, here's a good instructional video [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9XijAw3e8[/ame]

Edit: Just make sure the bolt can rotate freely over the bullet guide. After that, drill and tap the trunnion and attach the bullet guide with the screw (probably came with the bullet guide). I used blue loctite to secure the screw on my Saiga and it hasn't worked itself loose.

 

[Ultimate_sig]

Then there's really not much to it. If it came with instructions, use those. If it didn't, here's a good instructional video Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9XijAw3e8

Edit: Just make sure the bolt can rotate freely over the bullet guide. After that, drill and tap the trunnion and attach the bullet guide with the screw (probably came with the bullet guide). I used blue loctite to secure the screw on my Saiga and it hasn't worked itself loose.

I'm curious what's the purpose of this

 

[AleksiR]

I'm curious what's the purpose of this

The bullet guide? Most Saiga rifles don't accept normal AK mags out-of-the-box, but use an Izhmash made mag. On these the front wall of the magazine is slighlty higher than on normal AK mags and acts as a bullet guide, or a feed ramp and lifts the cartridge in the correct angle to feed it in the chamber. Also the rear locking tab is slightly thinner on the Izhmash mags. If you try to use a normal AK mag in a Saiga without the bullet guide, the nose of the bullet won't clear edge of the chamber and will get jammed.

Not sure if I made any sense, but feel free to ask more if I didn't

 

[Ultimate_sig]

The bullet guide? Most Saiga rifles don't accept normal AK mags out-of-the-box, but use an Izhmash made mag. On these the front wall of the magazine is slighlty higher than on normal AK mags and acts as a bullet guide, or a feed ramp and lifts the cartridge in the correct angle to feed it in the chamber. Also the rear locking tab is slightly thinner on the Izhmash mags. If you try to use a normal AK mag in a Saiga without the bullet guide, the nose of the bullet won't clear edge of the chamber and will get jammed.

Not sure if I made any sense, but feel free to ask more if I didn't

Makes perfect sense. I know exactly what your talking about. I have a Vepr, which is very similar to a saiga, and i got poly mags. They didnt fit right so i had to take a file to it.

Since poly mags can be filed if i get it to lock in would i still need a bullet guide. Prior to filing the mags would go into place but not lock

 

[AleksiR]

Makes perfect sense. I know exactly what your talking about. I have a Vepr, which is very similar to a saiga, and i got poly mags. They didnt fit right so i had to take a file to it.

Since poly mags can be filed if i get it to lock in would i still need a bullet guide. Prior to filing the mags would go into place but not lock

The normal AK mags didn't lock up in the Saiga either, so I took a dremel tool to the mag catch. Don't really know if you'll need a bullet guide as I have no idea what receivers are like on the Veprs. Load a couple of snap-caps into the mag and see if they'll feed correctly.

 

[potentialglock]

Makes perfect sense. I know exactly what your talking about. I have a Vepr, which is very similar to a saiga, and i got poly mags. They didnt fit right so i had to take a file to it.

Since poly mags can be filed if i get it to lock in would i still need a bullet guide. Prior to filing the mags would go into place but not lock

I still need the bullet guide. My mags lock up once u slap them on the bottom like a dirty Russian whore. But the bullets won't feed correctly

 

[trip286]

Lots of great things happen when things get slapped on the bottom like a dirty Russian whore. I love slapping things on the bottom like a dirty Russian whore! Dirty Russian whore bottoms!

 

[potentialglock]

Lots of great things happen when things get slapped on the bottom like a dirty Russian whore. I love slapping things on the bottom like a dirty Russian whore! Dirty Russian whore bottoms!

Hahahahaha!!!! How does Cinder feel about that? (You're the one dating Cinderocka right? If not I apologize.)

 

[trip286]

Well hopefully she realizes I'm just being me, and I don't actually run around slapping dirty Russian whore bottoms.

 

[potentialglock]

Well hopefully she realizes I'm just being me, and I don't actually run around slapping dirty Russian whore bottoms.

We can hope. I was afraid you were sharing bedroom secrets on a open forum lol.

 

[trip286]

Well I've never even met a Russian woman. Shook hands with a couple of spetznaz once (or whatever they call their SF these days), just so I could say I had the balls to approach them. Couldn't understand anything they said, even though they claimed to be speaking English. Still, I got the impression they wouldn't've appreciated any bottom slapping...

 

[trip286]

Thread drift alert...

 

[potentialglock]

Any advice on installing the bullet guide would be greater

 

[AleksiR]

I still need the bullet guide. My mags lock up once u slap them on the bottom like a dirty Russian whore. But the bullets won't feed correctly

I suggest you file down the upper edge on the mag catch unless, of course, you like slapping your mags like dirty Russian whores

Any advice on installing the bullet guide would be greater

What sort of advice are you looking for in particular?

 

[potentialglock]

I suggest you file down the upper edge on the mag catch unless, of course, you like slapping your mags like dirty Russian whores

What sort of advice are you looking for in particular?

I do like slapping them like dirty Russian whores they're tapcos so I ain't worried about them. And really just walk me through the process. All it is, is 1. Drill the reciever in the correct spot. 2. Tap the hole. 3. Install bullet guide right?

 

[AleksiR]

I do like slapping them like dirty Russian whores they're tapcos so I ain't worried about them. And really just walk me through the process. All it is, is 1. Drill the reciever in the correct spot. 2. Tap the hole. 3. Install bullet guide right?

Just make sure the bullet guide is ligned up properly with the chamber before marking and drilling the hole. And as I said earlier in this thread, make sure to bolt can rotate freely over the guide. I don't think the bolt is going to be a problem with a commercial bullet guide, but was just something I noticed when I was fabricating my own as it was too wide at first for the bolt to clear it.

Other than that, those three steps pretty much cover it.

 

[potentialglock]

Just make sure the bullet guide is ligned up properly with the chamber before marking and drilling the hole. And as I said earlier in this thread, make sure to bolt can rotate freely over the guide. I don't think the bolt is going to be a problem with a commercial bullet guide, but was just something I noticed when I was fabricating my own as it was too wide at first for the bolt to clear it.

Other than that, those three steps pretty much cover it.

If the hole was drilled wrong is it fixable?