Building my own Arisaka Type 38/97?

Discussion in 'Curio & Relic Discussion' started by Trez, Nov 7, 2011.

  1. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    The last couple of times I went to the gunshow, I found a guy who had 2 Arisaka type 38 receivers with the trigger parts and they both still had the Mums!! Well it got me to thinking if the guy still had them and I could get them for the right price I would pick them up at the next show, and try to build my own Arisaka type 38, using parts or looking for beat/broken ones missing their mums. Then the other day I was thinking if I have two receivers and the numbers arent gonna match anyways, why not build one into a type 97 sniper?

    So is it possible to build a replica type 97 using type 38 parts? Are there any major differences between the two?
    From the little research ive done it looks to me a type 97 is just a type 38 with a scope..

    Is there a reproduction scope and mount available, or at least something close/comparable?

    I figure its the only way Ill have a Japanese sniper, and most the real ones are missing optics, have missing or mismatched parts and still command high dollar. As well I figure I can have it accurized a little bit and not ruin a historic rifle (just small things like making sure I have a nice barrel, bolt fits true, maybe some cork bedding. I still want it to look like its from WWII)
    What do you guys think? Am I crazy and this is pointless? :confused:
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Crazy? Nah, you have to go over to the politics thread to find crazy....:p

    Main differences that I know of on these was a lighter stock, some had a monopod, internal trigger difference, and biggie- bent bolt handle so bolt did not whack scope.

    As far as a source for parts................ Yeah, I got nothing. Sorry.

    But some info and good pics for you-

    Nambu World: Type 97 Sniper Rifle
     

  3. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Thanks C3 thats a great site! The type 97 does look to be a variation of the 38..
    Looks to me the biggie is going to be finding some sorta scope.. Hmmm.....
     
  4. Jagerdad

    Jagerdad New Member

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    I'm trying to contact c3shooter, I registered today to do so. My email is Webphds@gmail.com.
     
  5. Jagerdad

    Jagerdad New Member

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    How do I attach a picture of a custom WWII Japanese Rifle..? I am very new. My email is Webphds@gmail.com I can get messages but I am stumbling on this forum.
     
  6. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Hi Jagerdad! Hey- some of have to WORK for a living- and we are not always here.

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  7. Milsurpshooter60

    Milsurpshooter60 New Member

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    you mean like this one?and accumounts make a great scout scope mount with an added rail you can choose to use a reg eye relief scope if you bend the bolts like i did.or just use a pistol or long eye releif scope all the jap snipers i have seen had the scopes mounted far in front much like a scout mount. i am waiting on the mount for this one , i made a modern hunter out of other only because the mum,s were removed allready.And most the other parts such as monopod an aa sights were missing.I have damn near 6 month,s work in this one.But boy she draw,s a crowd at range cant wait for the mount and scope not sure about repro jap scope but the mount is available from accumount,s for little under 100 buck,s.E bay has good deal,s on accumount scope,s and mount,s for all mil surp,s.
     

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  8. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Authentic Japanese sniper rifles dont have the scope in the front "like a scout rifle" They look like this..
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  9. Milsurpshooter60

    Milsurpshooter60 New Member

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    well the mount is forward , and good luck on ever finding that scope . just trying to help a guy scope his rifle easily. I am no jap rifle expert, ive seen em mounted way up front as well could be diff model,s could be done on the spot in a cave knowing them nips back then as my uncle called em w/e worked for em i guess nice pic tho i learned something thanx. But i have the accu mount on one of mine and it does work well without destroying rifle.And gives you the option of useing it either in scout scope or add the extra rail and you can use any scope if you bend the bolt.but with the scout scope alone you have to do nothing and ya done, ready for range.Note the scount mount on rear sight and how other rail attaches to mount itself , i had a pistol scope on it at first to see how it worked, held zero perfectly ,but i wanted something for long range this is the sporter i built with a ground mum missing parts type 99,you add the optional other rail you can use any scope you want if you get the bolt bending jig from brownells and add the extra rail, but you can easily just use scout mount and pistol scope or ler scope on the other 1, i plan on just useing pistol scope i have to leave it more like a mil version on my other one in the other pics i restored in previuos post . The accumounts is best way to scope an arisaka easily all i was trying to say . either way hope it help,s someone who may have a thin wallet at times like i do but would like to scope an arisaka.mount was 89 bucks with shipping on accu site.Can find em on e bay as well.When we get older like i am we just can not see front post on some these old mil surps.long as it doesnt destroy the rifle and hold,s zero close enough for me .Again just trying to help not claim arisaka expert .nice pics tho thanx again.:D
     

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  10. Trez

    Trez Well-Known Member

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    Thats why I gave up on the project... Nobody makes a reproduction Japanese sniper scope....
     
  11. Milsurpshooter60

    Milsurpshooter60 New Member

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    exactly , i have never seen a repro or authentic scope for the arisaka, but they can be scoped,just wont be a correct scope .
     
  12. broknwheel

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    I just scoped a sporter 38, i did not like the method used by most of the ones i have seen, right on top of the chamber and over the safety, my safety is original and i wanted use it if possible.I found a Williams side mount that fit as far forward on the receiver as possible. I found a gunsmith that was able to do the job. I will put some pictures up soon. Now to regress,I would like to make amount as close to original as possible. It needs to be mounted just forward of the bolt release and lower than the way I did mine. If any body has pictures of the original mount please send them to me for to see if it can be done.