building a 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by murraywc, Aug 14, 2010.

  1. murraywc

    murraywc New Member

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    I found several really cool gun parts in an abandoned house we rented. I got several millitary rifles including an 03-A3 Springfield and a G33/40 recievers and barrels only. Among the parts I found was a slide for a millitary 1911. I thought about selling it on ebay or gunbroker but when I started checking around I found that the slide was worth around 200. I also found that on numrich's they have a kit of all parts except frame and slide for around 200 and on other sights I can find a frame for around 200. So with the slide I can buy the parts to put one together for around 400 and some time but I love the tinkering part. Has anyone had any experience with the parts kit, the frames, or putting one together. I was concidering parkerizing it all to match I had good luck refinishing the 03-A3.
    Also the gun would not have a serial # would that be a problem as long as I plan to keep the gun and if I ever decide to sell, part it out. any input would be appriciated
     
  2. murraywc

    murraywc New Member

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    Would I be better off selling the slide and adding 400 to it to buy one. Or should i try building my own. I really want a millitay style.
     

  3. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Order a Fusion frame/kit from Brownells. Very affordable, and great quality.

    I know someone who would probably want the G33/40.
     
  4. murraywc

    murraywc New Member

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    Thanks i'll check that out.
    I have the reciever, barrel, and bolt all original. I couldn't find enough original parts to restore it like I did my 03-a3 so I found k98 parts to make it work and I'm building a stock now to sporterize it.
     
  5. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Don't cut, grind, drill or refinish any metal. One of these days you may regret it. Got any pics of what you have?
     
  6. freefall

    freefall New Member

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    The frame you buy will have a serial # and must be transferred by an FFL.
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I've done a few. I enjoy the search for the correct parts. Get Kuhnhausen's books on the M1911 and study them. Not only will you have diagrams, pictures, and well written text, but also good trouble shooting advice.
    Some of the "kits" may or may not have quality parts. If some of the parts in the kit are not to spec, tough, you bought the kit. It's a crap shoot.
    Buy the parts from a reputable company who would be willing to exchange parts.
     
  8. canebrake

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    If you want a 1911 shooter its best to go with modern metallurgy.

    The old warriors were spot heat treated and won't stand up to today's ammo. (Or not as well as contemporary 1911s.)

    If I was you, and you did ask, I'd hold onto the slide and learn as much as I could about its origin.

    Start with:
    Is it a M1911 or a M1911A1 slide?

    What’s the roll mark?
    M1911 - Colt, Remington-UMC, Springfield Armory (U.S. Government owned & operated) or North American Arms Co. of Quebec
    M1911A1 – Colt, Ithaca, Remington-Rand, Union Switch & Signal and Singer Sewing Machine Co.​
    When the M1911(A1) pistols were rebuilt in a military facility, they were without regard to the maker of the frame, slide or other parts. “Get ‘er done” and back in action was the whole idea. This provides a novice collector with a source of low cost M1911A1s that have mix-matched parts.

    I would do one of three things.
    1. Search for one of these mix-matched reman 1911s with a frame that matches the slide, or
    2. Search for a buyer that has one of these mix-matched reman 1911s with a frame that matches your slide.
    3. Sell the slide to canebrake.
    [​IMG]
     
  9. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I agree with Cane on most with one exception to his #3 on his list. It should read "sell the slide to danf_fl"
     
  10. murraywc

    murraywc New Member

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    I took a closer look at the slide. The finish is bad and it has several spots that are pitted. It is a Colt M1911. I think I may sell it though and buy my first 1911 and build my next one. In this shape do you know what it is worth.
     

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  11. murraywc

    murraywc New Member

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    as you will see the finish is pretty bad so it will have to be refinished. I first thought about parkerizing it, but after I found out a little more about what it is I decided to just reblue it. I would never drill, cut, or grind it. It has its original sights but if I want to scope it I will try to find a mount that will use a ring mount or I just accept the chalange of hunting with steel sights. The bolt is original notice the hollow ball on the bolt and the reciever and barrel do match numbers. I would concider selling it if the price is right but I'm kind of looking at is as a winter project but I have another one to build up.
     

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  12. M14sRock

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    Looks decent. Do you have the mag parts and floorplate?

    My advice is to leave it alone and sell/trade it to someone who needs one. The 33/40 is not nearly as common as a K98k.
     
  13. M14sRock

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    Hop onto GB and check out auction number 184976093. It is never gonna sell for that, but it is not your average $350 K98k, either.

    Do you want to make irreversible changes to something that they did not make many of?
     
  14. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Did you do any work on cleaning up the slide? That is close to what I have been looking for. I have a "US Property" marked frame, and all the other parts. My frame needs to get blued. Interested in selling?
     
  15. murraywc

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    I have floor plate and mag parts that will work with it but are not original. Since I found out what it is I wouldn't make a major alteration to it. Part of the bluing is gone. I also know it will never be make original with matching numbers however I did find a stock on GB #184303234 which is decent priced. The first time I looked for anything for it the only stock I found was 750. I haven't decided what to do yet. It wouldn't hurt it to put it in a spoterized stock and shoot it some but I could also use the money for some of my other projects
     
  16. murraywc

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    I did some light wire brushing to get the surface rust off to tell more and thats when I discovered some pitting. I'll try to get some more pictures tonight to show it better. I am interested in selling it. I've seen some in this shape for around 200 but I've also seen some in better shape around 200. I'm not real sure what it is worth. Take a look and make me an offer.
     
  17. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I've got a sandblasted Colt commercial slide of the same time frame. Would you like to work that into the deal?
     
  18. murraywc

    murraywc New Member

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    Here are some better pictures the pitting. See if it is something you may be interested.
     

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    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    Can you get me a pic of the firing pin areas (front and back), and inside of slide? Thanks.
    And yes, I am still interested.
     
  20. murraywc

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    Let me know what you think
     

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