Bug Out Property

Discussion in 'Survival & Sustenance Living Forum' started by StrayDog, Aug 23, 2010.

  1. StrayDog

    StrayDog New Member

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    The title is a little misleading. !st of all I honestly hope I'd never have to "run" anywhere but I have been giving some serious thought about buying a small piece of land, bug out land hopefully is a function it will never have to serve but anyway it's about an acre & 1/2 and borders Hoosier National Forest in far Southern Indiana. It's rural w/ a capital R but it's been surveyed has electric and water and a new gravel road and level building site. No structures on the property but no restrictions either other than no trailer homes older than 5yrs allowed. On a good day it's a 6ish hr drive.
    Any suggestions as to the pros & or cons of living next to a Nat'l forest? The distance?
    Growing up in Chicago I've always had a pretty strong aversion to the State of Indiana in general wich I now attribute to ignorance. I rekon because really all I knew about it was passing thru Gary. I gotta say though, I took a ride that led me thru the Southern part of the state and it is wooded with really nice rolling hill country.
    Anybody familier with the area? All thoughts are welcome. Thanks.
     
  2. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    The only national forest i'm familiar with is the Desoto National Forest, down here in MS. If you like bacon, the Desoto would be a great area to be near; it is fairly full of game to hunt, especially wild hogs.
     

  3. Troy Michalik

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    Stray Dog, I must applaud you on something that I think far too many people don't even consider (or maybe that's just my perception).

    I can't tell you the number of people that I have heard over the years that talk about bugging out. Only when asked "Where are you bugging out to?" have a response of "the woods". That irks the crap out of me. Because I live Rural. I drive an hour into the city to go to work. And I can tell you that if someone thinks they are going to come out to the "woods" and just set up camp . . . . . they should probably make other plans.

    So kudos to you good sir for thinking ahead.

    Sorry, but I don't know the area you are asking about, so I'm no help there. And I don't want to sound stereotypical, but I live down in Texas, so a six hour drive isn't bad to get to your bug out place. I've always thought though that having land that bordered a National Forest was a pretty good plan. I'd say if you can afford it, then why not. It never hurts to have your own little retreat in the wilderness and at the very least wouldn't be a bad place to take little camping trips with the family.

    Good Luck.
     
  4. EdH

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    My Bug Out Property is the same as where I live currently. I work 40 miles from where I live so I've got to make it home. I have a couple acres in the farmland and woods of South Central Pennsylvania. I've got a well, sand mound and a small generator and wind turbine for emergency. I also own 7 horses for transport in order to save fuel.

    I suppose if the SHTF while I'm at home I'll be Buggin In..

    Wife and I bought 20 acres in the Ozarks of Southern Missouri 3 years ago. deed in hand. I can retire in about 7 years and we are heading out there.

    Make a plan, stick to it as close as possible. If you get off track get back on as soon as possible.
     
  5. skullcrusher

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    As stated, having a place to go just in case is a good idea. I'm not sure how much an acre or 1/2 acre will serve as a Bug Out Place. If it has utilities, then there are other lots around about the same size, I imagine. Who is to say that there will be electric service in whatever SHTF situation you encounter. Forget water service if no electric. Nuttin from nuttin, but to me a true bug out place is like 1000 acres with a cabin directly in the center. That way, if you see another human, you know they are trespassing.

    Still, a small plot of land away from the city is always a good idea in my book. If it makes you feel better, then go for it. :)
     
  6. StrayDog

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    I hear ya friend. Yeah, it's property that they cut up into lots for sale. Theres somewheres around a dozen available ranging in size from 20acres down to a couple one and a half to 2 acre plots but nothing is written in stone at this point. Heck, I havn't even been up there yet. I'm shootin' for next wknd. My situation at home is kind of unique and getting away for any period of time, even a coupla days is difficult.
    I'm willing & prepared here as much as I believe I can be in a 2 bdrm condo to ride out whatever I had to but a Plan B would be nice. I'm sitting just outside the bullseye of a target zone and considering the current political situation both here and abroad not to mention the rest of the mess........Anyway, I 'preciate the well wishes. I'll keep ya updated.

    You bring up a good point about the water. It will be a major factor in any decisions. After doing a little research nitrates from fertilizer seems to be a pretty big issue across the country. Anybody familier w/ that problem?
     
  7. amoroque

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    Sounds like a good idea to me.
    And being right next to the forest is great IMO. You could always put a cabin on the land and use it as a hunting shack for you and your buddies!
     
  8. user4

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    I've sen places out in west Texas for pretty cheap on eBay. 40-80 acres. I bet some like minded individuals could go in on a piece of land and make a pretty nice compound.

    I guess that was not very germane to the topic, was it?
     
  9. hunter Joe

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    I don't know Ineff, they tried that in Waco and Janet Reno massacred the lot of them. We have to keep it on the QT.
     
  10. EdH

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    You can find land in the Sangria De Cristo Mountains of Southern Colorado for pennies on the dollar.
     
  11. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Where as a bug out property would be good, it would depend on what you are running from.
    My wife's family lives in Bedford, Indiana. One of the largest employers in the area is Crane Navel Surface Warefare Center which is pretty much butted up against where you would run to.
    It is a wonderful area though. I take the wife down, unload the sport bike, and ride through the twisties running through the roads though the hills and woods run from my in-laws.
     
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  12. CHLChris

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    In most SHTF situations, getting there will be the most difficult. I would love to get to my in-laws in such a situation. It is only 3.5 hours north of me.

    But there are only a few roads there, and over a couple dozen bridges. In most SHTF scenarios, I'm not going to be able to make it.

    If it is a LONG-term problem, I may consider walking there, but it would take a week and I may have to ford a few rivers. Lame!

    I'm going to bug-IN!
     
  13. StrayDog

    StrayDog New Member

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    I hear ya. Wheres anybody really gonna go if things get ugly. Who can tell how it'll play out, GOD forbid it does. As far as the Naval Ctr, I'm not sure what your implying the significance of that is but...... theres gotta be thousands of defense contractors in the U.S. not to mention dams, nuclear power plants, military bases.........the list is endless. Shoot, even that big train repair yard, you know the one that 'they' say has the razor wire on top of the fences pointed INWARD. From what i've heard thats in Indiana as well.
    Out the gate I said the title may be a lil bit misleading and right after pulling the trigger on the submit button I regrettted using it.
     
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  14. MajorCordite

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    "You bring up a good point about the water. It will be a major factor in any decisions. After doing a little research nitrates from fertilizer seems to be a pretty big issue across the country. Anybody familier w/ that problem?"

    During The Civil War the North blockaded The South and cut off their supply of foreign Salt Peter. As domestic sources began to fall also, The Confederates began to collect "night soil" to make their powder. Bat manure or guano was a source, too. So, when the sh** hits the fan just make sure you collect it and extract the nitrates. Sort of gives recycling a whole new name. :cool:
     
  15. MajorCordite

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  16. StrayDog

    StrayDog New Member

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    Thats very interesting not to mention ingenious on the part of the South. Theres alotta caves up where I'm looking so theres probably no shortage of bats.. I sure would like to learn more about that. No sh*t (J/kiddin' bout the no sh*t part) I'm a Yankee, just could'nt resist. Thank Ya Major.
     
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  17. MajorCordite

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    I've been making my own powder for years. You can also extract nitrates from seaweed, also. The Germans did it during WWI. Currently I'm getting a lot of bang for my buck. I'm still working on the smell, however. Don't laugh. My poot-gun loads are accurate out to several hundred yards. So, if you hear that Major Cordite has "cut one" you had better duck! :eek: