Budget 1911

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by spittinfire, Aug 10, 2009.

  1. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    This is sure to get some people fired up but what the heck! In my previous thread regarding a possible purchase of a 1911 I was looking at some Kimbers, Colts and the like but it's a hard pill for me to swallow to dump almost $800-1000 in one pistol. I know, I know, you get what you pay for and I agree. Let's take a look at some budget 1911's and get some thoughts there. Does anyone here have a Taurus? Rock Island?
    One that I stumbled on was a Legacy Cidadel, anyone know about them? I'm still shopping around, just wanted to get some thoughts on this and see what other people make have found or experienced.
     
  2. NGIB

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    I've had a couple Taurii 1911s as well as a handful of Rock Islands (including a High Standard & Charles Daly). All were OK guns but nothing extra special about any of them. I can tell you that Rock Island had great customer service should you need it though.

    If you get one for a good price, it's a good way to get the feel for the platform and you can probably sell it for what you paid. I do not recommend putting lots of $$$ in these as you will not get a return on the investment. A Rock Island Tactical is probably the best value out there in budget 1911s.

    The Taurii I had were good shooters but I wasn't enamored with them enough not to trade them away...
     

  3. AsmelEduardo

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    Go with the Taurus

    I heard that the Taurus 1911 is the best bang for the buck for a 1911...
    the only complaint about it is the henie straight 8 sights but now they are shipped with novak 3 dots as far I know...
    In here we don't have those wonderful guns... but I want one for sure.
     
  4. Dillinger

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    I like the PT1911 and I do feel it's one of, if not THE, best bang for the buck 1911's right now.

    Taurus has a lot of haters - and a lot of that comes from word of mouth and some crappy products they put out in the 90's.

    about 5 years ago or so, they went through and completely redid all their tooling with brand new CNC driven machines and got into the 1911 world. I have handled about 8 of them and shot 3 of them and they are a good, solid gun that does what it's supposed to do.

    I believe that stalkingbear has that exact model and the only thing he had a problem with was the front sight, if memory serves, but he did end up recommending the gun as a solid purchase.

    The problem with "budgt guns" especially in the 1911 category is the use of MIM parts. Now, they function fine for years, but for me, I don't want any MIM parts in my gun. I want steel and I want real metal in that steel, not melted down car bumpers and soda cans. :rolleyes:

    That said, you can get a Rock Island, and for a couple of hundred bucks, over the course of a year, get out the MIM parts and put in quality parts and build a very reliable gun.

    Bottom line, if the frame, slide and barrel are good quality, the rest of the gun can be tuned as $$ allows.....

    JD
     
  5. bobbyb13

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    Spit

    Like this Spitfire? My boys gave me this one for my 60th. I have never had a FTF of any kind. It keeps shooting tighter groups the more I fire it. 700+ rounds so far. I cannot fault the gun for the money in any way.
     

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  6. Franciscomv

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    Those Taurus 1911s work pretty well. They are very popular in Argentina, mainly because of the price (around $800 here...). The only other two options in new 1911s are Sigs and ParaOrdnance (the cheapest Para costs twice as much as the Taurus).

    The PT1911 has been selling very well, I know half a dozen people that own them and are quite happy. Nobody had any issues, and they are happy about all the extras included. The only complaint I heard is that the dovetails for the sights aren't compatible with some aftermarket sights.
     
  7. NGIB

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    Don't get me wrong, the Taurus 1911 is an OK gun. Two things irk me about them though: first customer service is sh1t if you need it and second the ad campaign saying you get a $2100 gun for $600 was very misleading.

    The RIA Tactical is "truer" to the 1911-A1 specs and costs less with stellar customer service. I picked up both my Taurii for about $400, and at this price (not much more though) I'd buy one again...
     
  8. Sarge43

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    I bought a PT1911 to use as a template for grips for them (they are wider front to back) and ended up shooting it a few times. It's a very accurate weapon, and I have had zero trouble with it at all. I honestly can't say anything bad about it other than it feels and looks lower end than many other weapons I've had. Seams on some of the parts, finish not matching to a tee on parts, just little things like that. Functionally, it's been just great though.
    Good luck!
    Sarge
     
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    I had a RI 1911a1 a while ago and it was ok except the extractor was to stiff and would not let the round ride up into place so I replaced it with a colt commander one and it worked fine. Also take a look at the Metro Arms American Classic its running around $390ish new
     
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  10. stalkingbear

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    I have the Taurus matte PT1911 & while I was pretty pissed off that it shot a little low to start with, it has definitely grown on me. To date I've put over 3,500 rounds through it WITHOUT ONE SINGLE MALFUNCTION OF ANY KIND. It will even feed an empty case straight from the mag! That's my "acid test" for feeding reliability. I have changed some things on it & hand fitted it for more accuracy. It WILL need a good trigger job out of box. Mine released at a creepy 7# as it came from Taurus. As it stands, IMO Taurus is THE bargain in 1911s.
     
  11. Gojubrian

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    Wonder if taurus will ever make a smaller 1911, maybe for carry?

    What about para ordnance? They seem to be decent guns at a lower price.

    Norinco?
     
  12. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    You and I are in the same boat. Taurus may make a nice 1911, but I want a 4" or less. Anyone out there?
     
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    22 conversion problems

    Taurus makes a very nice 1911 but the Kimber 22 conversion slide does not work with it so if you think you might want a conversion that is something to consider.
     
  15. Dillinger

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    Same price range?? Or just the best for the criteria?

    JD
     
  16. NGIB

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    A fella I know just bought a new Springer GI Champion for less than $500. This meets the size criteria but it is a basic GI-spec gun - but it is a Springer. The Rock Island Compacts are also nice guns at sub $500 and I had one for a while. Many of the sub-5 inch 1911s deviate a bit as they use bushingless bull barrels. I had a Kimber and a Springer that were both built this way. They were good shooters but it just depends on what you're looking for. A few companies make Commander-sized guns with 4 1/4 bushed barrels (my preference) Colt and Para (the LTC) come to mind.

    Just looked at one of my local stores with decent pricing and Taurus is near $600 for their base model - not the budget gun they once were. Lots of used ones on the market though for less. You choose, pay near $600 for the Taurus or pay $700 for a new Colt Commander as I did. Yes the Taurus will have all the bells & whistles (that you may or may not want) but it will never be a Colt.

    For a carry 1911, I find my Commander is just right and I don't need or want a big beavertail, ambi-safties, or other non-necessary stuff...
     
  17. russ

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    I just recently picked up a Para GI Expert for $465 at my local shop. I looked at it and the Taurus both and chose the Para for it's classic lines and the good reviews I've read. I only have a few boxes through it but it has had zero issues and is a nice shooter right out of the box. The only thing I've done is replace the hard plastic grips with a set of Pachmayr American Legend grips and bought a couple Chip McCormick 10rd. mags to go with the two stainless 8rd. mags it coms with. I'm no 1911 expert (this is my first) and I'm obviously a newbie here, but the Para gets two thumbs up from me for a budget 1911.
     
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  19. spittinfire

    spittinfire New Member Supporter

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    Same price range.....basically I need to stay in the $500ish area.

    Hey dune, how do the norinco's hold up and shoot?
     
  20. IGETEVEN

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    That's a damn shame on that embargo chit. I would like to spring for one of those 1911's, at those prices and see how they would stand up. :(

    Jack