BSA Optics?

Discussion in 'Firearm Accessories & Gear' started by fin24000, Jul 13, 2008.

  1. fin24000

    fin24000 New Member

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    Hey all
    I have been looking at a BSA Optics 4-16x40mm Mil-Dot scope (here) but is it a decent scope? it would be for my Remington 700 BDL 30-06 and right now I am looking for under $200 if possible..... thoughts?
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    Aaron
     
  2. Righteous

    Righteous New Member

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    BSA's are junk, ya get what you pay for, for under 200 you can get a Nikon or leupold in the rifleman brand.
     

  3. jeepcreep927

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    BSA seems to be hit or miss, more often miss. I might put one on a rimfire for informal stuff but nothing else. The rifleman series is about as good as you can do for around 2 bills. The only other lower priced scope I have had good luck with is Swift. They don't (or didn't) offer a lifetime warranty as Leupold does though.

    http://www.opticsplanet.net/nikon-riflescope-prostaff-3-9x40.html
    This is a sale on Nikon Prostaff 3-9 with free shipping.
     
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  4. Dillinger

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    Boy, Aught 6 is kind of a punishing round, I would really hesitiate to put something like BSA on there thinking you were done. They don't have the best track record as others have stated.

    It sounds like you have a good quality gun there, I would maybe wait and save some more coin to get a good scope to go with it.

    JD
     
  5. fin24000

    fin24000 New Member

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    OK so what is about the cheapist (while still being good) I could go whith something 3-9x40mm+ (would prefer 3-12 or 14....) Thanks.
     
  6. truevil1313

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    I think I paid about 300 for a Nikon buckmaster, and put it on my 7mm Rem. Mag. I have been real happy with it, and I can see great at night with it, while hunting hogs.

    JD, since we are on the topic of scopes, what would be your suggestion to put on a M4. I want some magnafication so I am not looking at red dots or eotechs. I was thinking like a 3x9 as well. Maybe I might just save up some more money and put a bigger badder Leup. on the 7 mag and move the Nikon over to the AR. What are your suggestions.
    Thanks
     
  7. Dillinger

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    That would depend on the configuration of your AR. If you have a longer barrel ( 18" or 20" ) then I could see going with a 3x9, or a 4.5 x 14 which I actually like on a mid range gun. Good field of view, limited magnification where you need it, gives you the ability to look across the frist few hundred yards with great clarity. If you aren't planning on lobbing rounds out to 600 or 700 yards, I think the 3 x 9 / 4.5 x 14 is a real good choice.

    Now, if you have a shorter barreled version, I would recommend against anything that strong, because you are going to be doing more harm than good. Get something small that offers some magnification that can snap on/off but still give you close sight applications.

    JD
     
  8. BigO01

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    Guns And Ammo did an article on this years ago 'Still Can't figure out why the wasted the space" that was very interesting yet completely lacking in information .

    The author spends the time talking of this and that scope that failed over the years and claiming many of them were indeed high dollar name brands yet he refused to name names .

    He also stated that many of the cheaper brands had been of surprising quality over the years .

    Me I came away from it deciding to get what I felt was easily within my budget while always avoiding the absolute bargain basement $40 scopes and always drawing the line at $200 .

    I see no sense in doubling the cost of a hunting rig by adding a scope , my killing a game animal isn't life or death for me and my family .

    I have had good luck with Simmons , Cabelas Pine Ridge scopes and oddly even one BSA Cats eye on my 3 06's over the years but admittedly I am not a big rifle guy , on a typical day at the range I put 2 times as many rounds through any one of several handguns than I do a rifle in a years time .

    I can tell you this about BSA I own one of their spotting scopes that is lacking in clarity compared to a Bushnell spotter I had years ago .
     
  9. truevil1313

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    My AR has a 16" barrel, I love hunting pigs, and I want to start taking head shots on them. I don't know, I just got frustrated last week when I was shooting and the best group I could get from the iron sights was 3"s. I got pissed off and decided to scope it. That was why I made the other post about ammo. I am just trying to get everything right, so I can make head shots at 100-150 yrds at night.
     
  10. Dillinger

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    Well, you can't start a post like this and just leave it half filled out. Spill it all out there brother - what specifically are you fielding and when did it start going downhill? Who made your upper, your lower, your barrel - how many rounds do you have downrange? The whole nine yards. Let's examine this just like you walked into the shop with the same complaint, but I won't be charging you by the hour. :cool:

    JD
     
  11. truevil1313

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    LOL, no there is no problem with the AR, I got all of that sorted out already. It does not like some of the ammo I was trying. I got ahold of an old Army buddy of mine and he sent me 4 different types of hand loads he had made up for me, and I got the AR performing wonderfully, half inch groups at 100, on iron sights. He has 500 rounds on the way to me now. My new issue is, if I want to shoot pigs, it is always at night. My Nikon on my 7 mag lets me see the pigs, when I cant see them with my naked eye, so now I want some kind of scope on the AR as well. God I hope all of this is making sense. I did buy a quick disconect mount to put the scope on, and I kept my flip up iron sight just incase I might need them.
     
  12. cpttango30

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    Ok I have had 2 BSA scopes One a 6-18x40mm that is on top of my Remington 511-x 22lr. It does good for a 22 lr. I also had a Platinum 36x44mm target scope. I for some reason put it on my 223, my 1/2" 5 shot groups opened up to nothing less than 3/4" with 90% of my groups shooting around 1" That is unacceptable for me. Both the BSA scopes have very poor light transmission I can put the 6-18 next to my Weaver and boy can you tell the differance between piss poor glass and good glass. Stick it next to my Leupold VX-II or my Bushnell elite 4200 and it will knock your socks off of how much differance there is then again we are talking about a $75 scope vs two $500 scopes.

    Now I have a remington 511 score master 22lr that is topped with a Weaver KT-15 15x40mm that scope is a very good scope for the $250 I paid for it. The rife it is on will shoot 1" 5 shot groups at 100 yards.

    Look at nikon, weaver Bushnell before looking at BSA.
     
  13. truevil1313

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    I have a BSA on my .22 and it does fine out to about 75 yrds. After that the groups opened up wide. For a cheap scope on a cheap, no recoil firearm it is not bad, but I would not bet my life on it.
    Now on the other hand, I tried out a BSA red dot on my .223 and it shot great. At 50 yrds. it shot about a half inch group, and at 100yrds. it shot about a one inch group. I have no idea how long it would last in the field, or how realible it might be over time, so again I will NOT bet my life on it. I was just trying it out. I might put it on my kids pelet rifle. These are just my experiances.
     
  14. rickrem700

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    Scopes

    I will make this short and sweet Leupold or Burris you get what you pay for!!!
     
  15. cpttango30

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    Yup Leupold is buying all there stuff from over seas and "Assembling" here in the states. I guess that makes them "American Made" right? they used to use 100% American parts in their scopes.

    I will never buy another Leupold. My 6-18x40 VX-II has more and 4" of eye relief change from 6 to 18 power. My Bushnell has maybe 1/2" of change from 6 to 24 power. Huh but my Bushnell is not as good as a Leupold according to some people. My Bushnell is much brighter then my VX-II bordering on VX-III brightness for 1/3 or 1/2 the price of a Leupold.

    I am not a big fan of Burris because the like to put giant objectives on all their scopes. Can hardly find a 40mm objective from them anymore. I will not shoot anything over 40mm there is no need for it for what I do. That is just a waste of glass and they look stupid to me with a 50mm objective on a rifle. LOL looks like a clown nose on them. Plus 95% of the people with big GAINT objectives are shooting with their chin on the stock and not their cheek. Then they piss and moan about their rifle not being accurate when it is really them because they are teetering on the point of their chin trying to shoot.

    The only way I will go bigger than 40mm is when I buy a nightforce for my bench rifle I will have made in a few years.
     
  16. hudd357mag

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    Had to put in my 2 cents worth. I just bought a 6-24 BSA Mil Dot scope and the light and glass seem fine. It's on my HK SL8 (.223) so maybe the lack of a huge kick will keep it operational for a long time. I figured for $50 bucks :) it will do me fine. I am not a competitive shooter I just use the rifle for target practice and plinking stuff. If the BSA fails I will be sure to post an update but for now I am happy with the purchase. Time will tell. :D

    I have a 6-18 Bushnell on my Mini 14 for about 15 years now? Was $80 back then. Still works great.
     
  17. RL357Mag

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    I have 2 BSA scopes - one 2-7x TV View ($20) on my Henry .22 Lever and one fixed 4x I just put on an AR-15. The AR shoots 1/2" groups all day at 100yds, and the Henry shoots 1/2" groups at 75 yds. That's all I need! My Bushnell Sportview is about 15 years old and still works as good as the day I bought it. I also have a few Simmons variable and fixed power scopes that I've had for many years that are still working just fine. One is a fixed 4x shotgun scope on a Marlin 512 Slumaster that kicks so much it's uncomfortable to shoot. It has about 100 rds. through it with the Simmons scope, which still holds a zero. If you abuse your weapons or scopes maybe a Leupold or Swarovski is good for you - I treat my guns and scopes with care, and they return the favor...
     
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