Browning X-Bolt or A-Bolt

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by WhiteWolf4, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. WhiteWolf4

    WhiteWolf4 New Member

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    If purchasing a Browning bolt action rifle in either 7mmMag or 300 Win mag, would the X bolt or the A bolt be better????WhiteWolf
     
  2. stalkingbear

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    Very good question. I already have 2 a-bolts and was looking at an x-bolt closely. If this will be your 1st browning,I'd likely go for the x-bolt,simply for the reasons that the trigger is outstanding on the x-bolt,and you don't have to permanently modify the safety so that the bolt will operate while on safe.
    Am I going to trade in my a-bolts? NO WAY. I'm just hooked on the a-bolt.
     

  3. WhiteWolf4

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    Thanks Dude

    Nice to meet a browning man on here...lol...Actually have bought brownings all my life and got rid of em cause sometimes I do stupid things....lol...Just chose the Browning lable cause that's what I grew up with...Took dads old heavy 12 gauge Belgium in the river bottoms since I was 13...Kicked like a mule...lol....
    That being said...I buying back into firearms and never had a bolt action....Ran into a deal sunday that I couldn't pass up...7mm Rem Mag w/BOSS w/Nikon Monarch scope...Might have messed up, don't know....Got a rep from Browning supposed to call me about the BOSS and gonna check with him on the X-Bolt....I don't think the features are that much different...But I like the idea of the bolt/safety thing also....Thanks for the comeback...Dwight
     
  4. Northwoods

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    I'd like to know about the X bolt vs. the A bolt also. I'm still stuck on the old Browning Safaris (bolt actions on Mauser receivers).

    Probably should start looking at new stuff...........
     
  5. stalkingbear

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    No,you didn't mess up at all,got yourself a heck of a setup there. Just a couple things I want to touch on with the boss. The first is you really need to get the boss "CR" module. CR meaning conventional recoil. It's the piece that has the holes in it on your boss except it don't have the muzzlebreak holes in it. You will use that when hunting,or at a crowdwd range where increased noise level isn't cool. Use the boss (one with holes) module when you're shooting it a lot such as sighting it in or adjusting boss to "sweet spot".
    What the boss does is basically the exact same thing as reloaders do when working up a load,but by different method. In both methods,the idea is for the bullet to exit muzzle at same point in vibration cycle (same point in muzzle whip) as close as possible with every bullet. This is espically helpful if you DON'T reload. I was exrtremely sceptical of the boss when it first came out but after shooting several boss equipped rifles,I consider it to be 1 of the greatest things to come out for hunters/shooters that never intend to reload.
    Since I'm a long time reloader,the boss don't do anything I can't myself by working up a load. Adjusting the boss is althou simple,requires a lot of ammo/time to get it exactly right. What you do to adjust it is start at the manufacturer's reccomended "sweet spot". Fire a 3 shot group,allowing plenty of time for barrel to cool between shots,adjust boss a full # value,fire another 3 shot group. You'll keep doing this,watching the group shrink,until it just starts getting bigger. Then if desired,you can fine tune the boss by adjusting 1/10 value at a time until you acchive the tightest group possible with THAT load. Different loads will of course,require different adjustments.
    Hopefully I'm not making this seem complicated.
    I LOVE my browning rifles(A-bolts,BLR,BL 22,BAR,T-bolts,etc),and some of their shotguns(any over/under and bps pumps).
     
  6. stalkingbear

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    I currently have 2 a-bolts and can only comment on x-bolt from what I handled the other day. Both offer 3 locking lug,60 degree bolt throw,tang safety,detachable mag,factory glass bedding. The trigger on the x-bolt I tried is 1 of the very FEW I've ever tried on ANY kind of firearm that I wouldn't do a thing to. I don't think I would like the polymer mag as much as the steel 1 on a-bolts,but time will tell. The bolt is smaller in (x-bolt) diameter and the 3 lugs are configured differently between the 2. Offhand-either 1 is a winner but the x-bolt is supposed to be improved.



     
  7. Northwoods

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    Thanks, Stalkingbear! I get kinda' stupid when looking at Browning bolt action rifles. I just seem to gibber and drool, instead of asking intelligent questions. It helps to have someone who can keep their wits about them do some analysis and note the engineering differences.

    Thanks again!
     
  8. WhiteWolf4

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    Thanks for all the info on the boss....Helps me alot...This is my first shot at a bolt action rifle and I'm a little ignorant to it all...Been out of hunting a long time and need to update....I've still got my dads old belgium .12 ga he bought in "54"...WhiteWolf
     
  9. Kent E

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    Hey guys, I'm going to purchase an X bolt, I love the gun and it just "fits". I'm curious about the BOSS system too. Why is it not offered on the x bolt? Is there some design difference that doesn't allow for it?
     
  10. stalkingbear

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    boss in X-bolt

    As a matter of fact,the boss is offered in many of the X-bolt configurations. Go to the browning website and you can see what all x-bolts are offered with boss. Glad to help guys!:)
     
  11. WhiteWolf4

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    Yeaah, Kent, I loved the feel of the x-bolt going to the shoulder....Settled right in on me...WhiteWolf
     
  12. Kent E

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    I looked on the site and wasn't able to find anything BOSS related for the x bolt.
     
  13. WhiteWolf4

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    I don't know, Kent...I checked out the BOSS n the customer service section...but didn't look for any rifles with any of them...
     
  14. stalkingbear

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    I believe yall are right on the x-bolt coming without boss only. I went to browning website and didn't see any x-bolts offered with boss.
     
  15. Kent E

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    Whitewolf, were you able to get out and test the gun? How's the bolt action doing for you?

    I'm planning on using a Nikon scope too, interesting how our set-ups will be similar.
     
  16. WhiteWolf4

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    Nope haven't tested it yet...Just got ammo for it the other day....And I been gone since then...Between trucking and Mothersitting, I haven't had a chance....Also ordered a Weatherby Vanguard .270 Win...Going with a Leupold scope on that one....WhiteWolf4
     
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  17. blucher

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    Stalkingbear, I think you're the man to speak with about Browning identification. I think I have an A-bolt in .338 Win Mag but can't match it with a pic on the Browning site.

    It has a Monte Carlo cheek piece but has no checkering and lacks a thumbhole. It fills a hole in my inventory and I made the mistake of asking to hold it. <sigh>

    I'd like to know exactly what Browning calls this critter and what it prefers to be fed as well as what fodder it could fire.

    My gun buddy is another Kentuckian but he's more into handguns. Yesterday I discovered he's named (Bugler) his neighborhood bear. They share a small mountaintop in Ky.

    Thanks:confused:
     
  18. stalkingbear

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    There are a few models that was/is made with Monte Carlo stock, but the no checkering part is throwing me. Browning made a model called euro-bolt, but it has an flattened bolt handle.
     
  19. Bear_Down

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    The Boss system is probably the best tricks that has come out of any manufacture.
    What it dose is tune the barlle length to match the exit of you're lead.
    This greatly increases the accuracy of the gun as long as the shooter dose his job.
    This can be seen butter with hand loads. First adjust you're load to the tightest grouping possable then tune the boss.
    Simply remarkable.
     
  20. jcosto

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    Boss for X Bolt

    I want to buy the X Bolt with the boss and have called Browing they do not offer it on the X Bolt . I was hoping they would come out with it at the shot Show and call them after the show , and was told they have not plans to offer the boss on the X Bolt at this time.