Browning and FNUSA and the Second Ammendment

Discussion in 'Legal and Activism' started by Amsdorf, Nov 11, 2012.

  1. Amsdorf

    Amsdorf New Member

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    I stopped by the Browning/FNUSA's USA customer service center, which is very close to where I live and noticed something a bit disconcerting.

    They have a huge sign plastered on their front entrance declaring that any firearm on the premises is to be unloaded.

    Tell me how this is an indication of the right to keep and BEAR arms. I don't know about you, but I prefer to carry a concealed weapon with bullets in it. Seems to work better.

    Your thoughts??

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  2. COLDdeadFINGERS

    COLDdeadFINGERS New Member

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    I agree with your thoughts but I agree more with the rights of private property owners. Respect of others rights on their private property is very important.
     

  3. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Probably been pressured by OSHA.
     
  4. Blueguns

    Blueguns New Member

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    I highly doubt they do this without a good reason.
     
  5. Garadex

    Garadex New Member

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    Won't keep bad guys from doing it but it will reduce ND from happening. Most law abiding half-retarded firearm owner is going in there without unloading the gun after seeing the sign.
     
  6. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    Any gunstore ive ever been in requires you to unload firearms when bringing them in the store.

    Does it apply to concealed defensive weapons?? common sense says no, it only applies to those firearms being openly displayed for reasons of commerce.

    Most likely people show up there all the time with loaded firearms for repair and service. Usually only takes one instance of an unloaded gun perforating a ceiling for such a sign to show up.
     
  7. msup752

    msup752 New Member

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    All the gun stores in my area have the same signs but in small print it says it does not apply to CPL (concealed pistol license) holders concealed weapons. It is intended for firearms brought in for trade, smithing, or to be sold.
     
  8. robocop10mm

    robocop10mm Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Live ammo and guns being built or serviced DO NOT MIX. I understand the need to prevent accidents. When officers show up for qualification they are required to leave all loaded ammo in their car. They enter the facility with unloaded weapons. They are given their ammo for qual and leave with an unloaded weapon (reload it before you drive off). Do You think they feel "naked" for a bit? Sure. They just have to get over it.

    Private property owners have every right to regulate who comes onto their property carrying guns.
     
  9. locnload

    locnload New Member

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    I would agree that these restrictions are simply a matter of avoiding ND's. I know we are all suposed to be highly trained profrssionals, capable of carrying a fully automatic weapon 24/7 with the safety off, "this is my safety sir" (from Blackhawh Down). But the reality is, anytime people are handling firearms that they "assume" are unloaded, bad things can happen. If you are going into this facility with a firearm, someone is probably going to be handling it. This is not a restriction of your 2A rights, its just safety rules on the part of people who are responsible for safety.
    We as 2nd Ammendment supporters do ourselves a diservice when we rant and rave about this kind of stuff. While mayors and city councils get away with blatant violations of Constitutional rights all around the country, we are busy whinning about not being allowed to carry our locked and loaded pistols into the gun show. Let's get over it and put our attention where it belongs.:eek:
     
  10. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    None of the guns stores in my area have restrictions. Actually very few business places in town have restrictions. Public buildings all have restrictions.
     
  11. NativH

    NativH New Member

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    This is exactly how I see those signs. They are concerned about weapons that will be handled, not a concealed weapon that is holstered. Common sense is a valuable tool.
     
  12. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Call me paranoid, but if i am walking in a gunshop (or just about anywhere else) with an uncased & visible firearm, it will have the action VERY obviously open and will be carried in a way that keeps my hand well away from the trigger. Somebody might be waking up from a nap and mistake my intentions.
     
  13. COLDdeadFINGERS

    COLDdeadFINGERS New Member

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    Simply put. Thank you
     
  14. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Nothing new at Browning in Arnold. We transported special weapons from here during the war in SE Asia in the 1960s. Personal carry weapons were never an issue. JonM has explained the problem very well. Don't try to turn this into an antigun attack on Browning. They are a very pro American company.
     
  15. John_Deer

    John_Deer New Member

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    Local shops can count on common sense to rule. If someone brings a loaded gun in for service or trade bait the shop owner can throw them out. A large company like Browning has the insurance company lawyers dictating signage and company policy.