Browning A5

Discussion in 'General Shotgun Discussion' started by tuck, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. tuck

    tuck New Member

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    sory to rehash old news but have a browning A5 am trying to find more info on. It is a belgium made Fn gun and apparantly the serial number is 442615. This is the stamped number located in front of the loading port. Yet apparantly they stopped at 438000. The barrel is marked B72877 and the barrel ring guide is marked 463322. Am at least trying to find the year of manufacture. Am now simply confused. Please help
    Another point of interest is that the only engraving on the reciever is the browning bust which i also assume would be a good hint to the educated
     
  2. Minionsram

    Minionsram New Member

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    Here you go Tuck, and by your post count, welcome to Firearmstalk! Hope you dont take the information and run like so many others do. Stay around and chat with us Brother:D

    Date Historic Information Serial Number Info
    1903-1939 First 10,000 shipped to U.S. Marked with "BROWNING AUTOMATIC ARMS CO. OGDEN UTAH-U.S.A." Very few serial number records remain. Beginning with Serial Number 1 to approximately 228,000. Exact production figures are not available. Year of manufacture on Pre-World War II production is strictly a guess.
    1940-1946 From 1940 to 1946 production of the Auto-5 was turned over to Remington. Serial number is on the side of receiver. "ABC" for American made Version. (A=16 gauge, B-12 gauge, C=20 gauge) 1946+229,000-237,000
    1947 237001-249000
    1948 249001-270000
    1949 270001-285000
    1950 285001-315000
    1951 315001-346000
    1952 F.N. took over production of the Auto-5. 346001-387000
    1953 387000-438000
    1954-55 Serial Numbering System changed. H=Standard Weight. L=Light Weight. H1-H83000
    L1-L83000
    1956 Serial Number designation for the Light Weight changed to G. H83001-H99000
    G1-G23000
    1957 Serial Numbering System changed again. M=Standard Weight. G=Light Weight. M22000-M85000
    G23001-85000
    1958-67 From 1958 serial numbers were preceded by the date of manufacture. 8M=standard weight for 1958. 8G=light weight for 1958.
    Example: 8M1000 = A 1958 Auto-5 standard weight shotgun with serial number 1000 G85001-G99000
    8G1-8G2000
    M=standard weight
    G=light weight
    1968-76 In 1969 Browning started using two digits for the date of manufacture which was followed by a four digit code that identified the type of Auto-5:
    M=standard weight
    G=light weight
    This was then followed by the serial number beginning with 1000.
    Example: 69G1000 = A 1969 Auto-5 Lightweight 12 ga.. shotgun with a serial number of 1000. M-standard weight
    G=light weight
    1976-1997 In 1976 Browning standardized its serial number identification which it followed until 1998.
    1. Auto-5 Type 151=Magnum 12 gauge
    161=Magnum 20 gauge
    211=Light 12 gauge
    221=Sweet 16
    231=Light 20 gauge
    2. Date of Manufacture
    is a two digit code Z=1
    Y=2
    X=3
    W=4
    V=5
    T=6
    R=7
    P=8
    N=9
    M=0
    3. Serial Number
    beginning with 01001
    at the start of each year.



    Serial
    Number Example:
    01001RT151

    This would be an Auto-5 Magnum 12 ga.,manufactured in 1976 with the serial number 01001.

    1999 The Auto-5 will be discontinued for 2000. To commemorate this historic event for the Auto-5, Browning released the "Final Tribute" version in 1999.
    1. Serial Number
    beginning with 1001
    at the start of each year.
    2. Date of Manufacture
    is a two digit code 2000 (distribution began in 1999)
    3. Auto-5 Type FT="Final Tribute" 12 ga.



    Serial
    Number Example:
    2000FT1001

    This would be a Auto-5 "Final Tribute" 12 ga., manufactured in 1999 with the serial number 1001
     

  3. 58evinrude

    58evinrude New Member

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    I hope you don't mind if I saved that!
    Thanks for the info.,
    JBJ:)
     
  4. Minionsram

    Minionsram New Member

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    I dont mind a bit:D

    How you think I have a computer that is full stuff like this. It is not all from the books I bought:D
     
  5. Supercharged86

    Supercharged86 New Member

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    Hi Tuck,
    I can see how this can be confusing, with your apparent serial # falling outside the production range. The above listed information along with some other information can be found here: Auto-5 Semi-Automatic Shotgun
    If you haven't already looked there.

    It would appear that you might have an "unmatched" barrel and receiver set based on the numbers you provided. I say this only because I own a 1951 A-5 that used to be my grandfathers and the serial number 337*** is stamped on both the receiver and the barrel ring (left side). Hope this helps. Good Luck. Steve
     
  6. WGram3

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    If the gun is from the late 50's, I believe they stopped matching barrels and reciever SN's. Also, I saw he didn't mention the guage in the original post, and as I understand it, that makes a difference on what the serial number tells you about the gun. I have a standard 16 ga A5 from 1958. The barrel and reciever SN's don't match, and if you went by Brownings SN data on their website, it would put the gun as a 1920's model (which of course it isn't).
     
  7. magtwelve

    magtwelve New Member

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    what year is it?

    i just got a browning auto-5 magnum it is a belgium. i was wondering what year it was made I have looked everywhere and all the dates i find end at 438000 in 1953, the serial number on my gun is 69v 45004. can anyone tell me the year it was made? thank you
     
  8. Supercharged86

    Supercharged86 New Member

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    Hi Magtwelve,

    According to the Browning website: Auto-5 Semi-Automatic Shotgun, starting in 1969 and going until 1976, Browning used a two digit prefix (followed by the remainder of the serial number) to identify the year of manufacturing. Based on this information, I would surmise that your shotgun was made in 1969. Good luck. Steve
     
  9. gm230000

    gm230000 New Member

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    Thank-you. Browning Auto 5.

    I can not than this group for helping me out so much. Its a long story, but to cut to the quick, I would like to know what a Browning Auto 5 Liight (Belguim) is worht. (Serial 73G34xxx). is worth. I was specifically instructed to sell this gun, with proceeds to go to my mother (92 yrs old), minus 20%. I is in NEW condition. It has been fired 6 times. My Dad, My brother, and myself; when baught new. So, it is in NEW condition. However, I we don't have the original box. What can I expect to get from a dealer, and what is the retail? If you really need more details, just post. Thank-you.
     
  10. gm230000

    gm230000 New Member

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    test

    just wondering if my previous msg got posted (newbe in need of help). Thanks.
     
  11. jg4077

    jg4077 New Member

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    Mind if I jump in? I have a Standard Weight A-5 I inherited from my father. Serial number is 2325xx. Receiver and barrel are both marked Browning Arms St.Louis Mo. Is this a Remington manufacture? It sure looks that way from your chart. I always thought the gun was 50's vintage.
     
  12. jg4077

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    Well did some more research. This gun is a Remington manufacture (1946).
    To tell you the truth I am crushed. I always bragged I had a Belgium Browning. I find out it is American made.

    I feel like the kid who had a Mickey Mantle autographed baseball and then finds out it is a fake. :(
     
  13. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Well, I looked at the Gun Traders Guide- but then I went and looked at some of the on line auctions that closed in the past 90 days- for guns that had sold. The book value for a light 12 in excellent condition is about 600. Ones that have sold, in varying conditions, run up to about $500. Right now times is hard, money is tight, and a lot of out-of-work folks are selling off guns. Expect a dealer to offer 50-60% of the book- they have to pay rent and light bills. You can also have a dealer sell on consignment- he gets a percentage of sale price (varies, 20% not uncommon, your mileage may vary) If a consignment gun does NOT sell, you will need to complete paperwork same as if buying it to get it back from dealer. .

    You can also put it up for sale on an on line auction- I use Auctionarms.com, and gunbroker.com. If you do that, do not set a reserve, just start the gun at the price you could live with- have good pictures. Winner sends you payment, and info on a dealer (name, address, license number). You can verify license thru ATF website (called E-Z-Check) and you ship TO the dealer.

    Do not try craigslist or a local ad. Scammers and thieves. Those are great shotguns- still have my Dad's.
     
  14. Vearl Brown

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    I can't tell for sure but there is a good chance that you have an A-5 that was made during WWII by Remington. You said that it was a FN made gun but does it actually say made in Belgium or is that just an assumption ?
     
  15. jg4077

    jg4077 New Member

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    The barrel says Made in Belgium on the right hand side.

    Browning Arms Company St.Louis Mo. is on top of the barrel and on the receiver.

    The safety is different than any other A-5's I have encountered. It is located in the front of the trigger guard. I was told this is a Remington giveaway.

    The gun is in excellent shape, spent years in a closet. No rust, just some scratches on the stock. Blueing is 95% (my guess)