Browning 22 semi auto rifle feed problem

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by bwomble, Sep 4, 2010.

  1. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    I just obtained a Browning 22 semi-auto rifle. The gun had sat unfired for 10 years or more but was in excellent visual condition. I believe it to be Japanese manufactured during the 1970s. Anyway, it has problems feeding ammunition from the magazine. Sometimes it feeds sometimes it doesn't. The cartridges appear to be up too high for the bolt to engage them. On the other hand at times the cartridges seem to be interfering with the bolt travel to the rear. There is nothing obviously wrong and I'm a bit baffled and any help would be appreciated.
     
  2. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    Do you load the rifle into a magazine tube through a hole in the stock?

    Hey, BTW, you should stop by the "Introductions" thread and tell us a little about yourself. It's a great forum and lots of good fellow Texans are members!
     

  3. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    When you say magazine, is that removeable? If so, I would check the lips on the mag. It sounds like they are too wide (improper loading will defrom some .22lr mags)
     
  4. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    I think his post was just a drive-by.
     
  5. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    Yes, it loads through a tubular magazine through a hole in the stock. I apologize for not checking back sooner. I thought I was set to receive an email if anyone replied and I never got one. I'll have to check on that.
     
  6. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    Did you clean it before shooting it? Sitting for 10 years is going to let some stuff get very sticky.
     
  7. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    Look through the feed hole in the stock as you turn the magazine tube with your fingers. As you do this, if you see the feed hole in the magazine tube rotating, it means the magazine tube has broken off in the receiver. Probably just due to age, because the strength of the threaded portion of the feed tube has been compromised.

    This happened in mine, not through any kind of neglect or mistreatment, but because it is over fifty years old. Unless you have access to some machining equipment or a really good gunsmith, you'll probably have to send it off to Browning like I did. And they WON'T send it back in it's original state.

    I learned this the hard way. They replaced the beautiful stock and foregrip with the cheap, plasticky-looking wood they're using on those rifles today.
     
  8. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    It is a tubular magazine through the stock. I actually don't think the tubular magazine is the issue, there is short section in the receiver that the cartridges pass through just before the bolt feeds them into the chamber. I believe something is wrong between the bolt and the receiver.
     
  9. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    Clean

    Yes, I cleaned it. Everything seems smooth as butter until you put ammunition in the mag. The bolt seems to be dragging on the cartridge case during the blow back.
     
  10. Vearl Brown

    Vearl Brown New Member

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    Make sure that the cartridge stop is still in the rifle. It's pretty common for them to fall out and NOT be noticed when the trigger mech. is removed. If it is not there you will have all kinds of feeding jams. Also check your ammo. These rifles do NOT work well with Hollow Point ammo.
    And if the ammo has been in the Mag. tube and removed the feeding problem will continue to get worse every time you reload it into the magazine---this is a PROVEN FACT !!!!
     
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  11. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    Hmm...

    Well, the ammunition in question is hollow point. I'm not certain about the cartridge stop but I did take the trigger mechanism out. I'll try to check that out. Thanks!
     
  12. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    Stock in question

    That would upset me. I like the wood that is on this firearm...
     
  13. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    It upset me, too. So I held on to the old wood, just for the sake of nostalgia and the memory of the man who gave me the rifle.
     
  14. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    If they returned the old wood it would mitigate the situation somewhat. Was the wood part of the problem?
     
  15. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    No, that wasn't the problem. The threaded end of the magazine tube had broken off in the receiver, probably due to old age. The rifle had been taken care of lovingly, so it wasn't a matter of mistreatment.
     
  16. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    Scratching head

    Then unless there was a problem with the new tube fitting into the old stock I don't understand them changing the stock out. The magazine tube is not broken, at least not completely but it will turn perhaps a quarter inch in both directions. It will not unscrew (should it?) nor can I tighten it. So there is a little slack or wiggle room in the magazine tube but it is definitely still connected to the receiver.
     
  17. Vearl Brown

    Vearl Brown New Member

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    The older rifles have a thinner magazine tube that is prone to breaking. There are also 3 different types of " OLDER TUBES". If you send your rifle to BrowninG in Arnold MO it can be upgraded to the " TYPE 5 " loading system which would include a much heaver magazine tube and modifying your stock to take the heavier tube and the parts that are needed to do so. I don't have any idea as to cost as I've been gone from there for a little over 11 years now. Hope this helps.
    The old stock has to be modified to take the new and heavier mag. tube as it's to thick to fit into the old stock. We NEVER just replaced the wood unless it was broken and then that was the customers choice as the rifle was "QUOTED" before the work was done.
     
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  18. lonyaeger

    lonyaeger Active Member

    Wish I had known then what I know now, Vearl. Thanks!
     
  19. bwomble

    bwomble New Member

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    Thank you very much. I will look into sending the rifle to them.
     
  20. dragonfly

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    I have been shooting my wheel sight for about 50+ years and never had a problem with HPs or any other ammo that I can remember. But I do not shoot Remington bulk, and have not shot Remington period for many years. Federal, Winchester and CCI mini-mags do fine. There is a small piece in the top of the receiver that affects the feeding of ammo. Some like mine has a small spring that monitors the next shell for loading, Some newer ones were changed a little. Get a schematic or visit a smitty. Simple fix and only a few dollars. Don't send it to Browning unless you get assurances that anything changed out will be returned, and not to mess with the wood. I have never heard of what the previous poster described. I would raise havoc because I have a beautiful grain in my stock.
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