British .303 scope?

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by ssbs, Oct 1, 2013.

  1. ssbs

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    I just got my first rifle today. It is a British .303 which I will be using to hunt whitetail. I'm not exactly sure what style gun I have but I know some .303s require special mounting hardware for scopes. I'm trying not to spend much as my budget is very tight. The gun was only $130. Any suggestions for mounting a scope?
     

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  2. marc29th

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    Here is how I have a scope mounted on one of my No. 4 Mk 1's


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    The rail mounts where the rear sight goes.
     

  3. ssbs

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    My gun has a fixed magazine, if I were to mount a scope like that would I still be able to load the gun? Since it is too fed? From the angles of your pictures I cannot really tell.

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  4. marc29th

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    You would be able to load them one at a time and not from stripper clips, with this one I usually take out the mag yo load it quicker.
     
  5. 303tom

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  6. ssbs

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    The magazine
     

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  7. TLuker

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    Your .303 appears to be a No1 Mk III* and the scope will mount similar to marc29th's No4 Mk1. I'll post a picture later this afternoon of the mounts on a No1. And if yours is a No1 then that is not a fixed magazine, but the magazine release appears to be missing. That should be easy to fix and inexpensive. :)
     
  8. ssbs

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    Thanks. I don't know a whole lot about guns but it does appear to be a fixed magazine. I don't have any ammunition yet but it looks like it can hold about 3 rounds... Loaded from the top
     
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    I guess that answers my question on how many it holds................
     
  11. TLuker

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    When I looked at the first pictures you posted I just assumed the magazine was not in the rifle because the magazine hanging down is just part of the profile of a .303. I now understand what you're saying and that picture you posted of the bottom of the rifle helped clarify what's going on there. It appears someone cut the bottom of a magazine out and sealed off the opening in the stock with it. They also removed the magazine release latch. There should be a detachable 10 round magazine in that rifle similar to the others pictured.

    In the future you might want to check and see how much it would cost to get a replacement magazine and the release latch put back in. It isn't necessary but it would be convenient to have.

    As for loading from the top as is with a scope mounted on the rifle, that shouldn't be a problem. I just loaded one in mine to see and I had no issues. My mount is similar to the one 303tom has shown and would be similar to anything you bought.

    Good luck, and when you do shot it make sure you have a little padding on your shoulder. Those rifles don't kick bad, but there is no give in those metal butt plates. :)
     
  12. ssbs

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    Thanks 303tom

    Thank you for checking that for me.
    I have actually shot a British .303 before, you're right.. Recoil isn't bad, I don't remember it causing me any trouble. I was young when I shot it, maybe 10 or so.

    Is there any way I can confirm that my rifle is a no. 1 mk3? I'd like to know for sure before ordering a mount
     
  13. ssbs

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    I looked at it a little closer and it is stamped 1940 and III. What number does 1940 make it?
     
  14. marc29th

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    1940 is the year it was manufactured and III is for it being a No. 1 Mk III.
     
  15. TLuker

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    It should have "No1 Mk III*" stamped on it but it would easy for the other parts to have worn away.
     
  16. ssbs

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    So, someone pointed out to me that my rifle has previously been drilled and tapped for a scope. I have been looking at ordering a weaver or ATI mount (no drilling required) but I am curious if anyone has any ideas on what kind of mounts may have been used previously. I couldn't get a very good picture of it. I can get a better one in the sunlight tomorrow if I need to.
     

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  17. ssbs

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    I wound up ordering a no. 1 mk3 ultimate arms scope mount for $35. I tightened everything up nicely and shot 2 rounds before the whole mount popped off. I emailed the place that I ordered from and they told me it must've been defective and to send it back. By the time all of this transpired and I got a new mount in the mail I only had a week of deer season left. When installing the mount this time I had even put thread lock on the set screws.. Fired the first round and it popped off again. Tried firing a round with iron sights and shot centered about 3 or 4 inches to the right.. Now I'm trying to figure out what to do, find another scope mount that might not work or try hunting this fall with iron sights.

    Opinions?


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  18. JTJ

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    Adjust your irons and use them.
     
  19. 303tom

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  20. TLuker

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    Any mount you get is essentially just a base and all a base needs is good screws and threads in the receiver on the rifle. Without having seen your mounts I'm guessing the problem is the threads on your receiver? I would carry your mount to a gun smith and get him to tap you receiver with the next size up threads and then drill the base so they clear. You shouldn't ever have a problem out of it again and it shouldn't be very expensive to have done?

    Good luck! :)