So I am still a little ways away from having enough saved up for a good gun safe, but I have been shopping around. I plan to spend no more than $5000 on one and to get it the biggest I can, BUT, I security is really at the top of my list along with American made. So here is what I have found and I would appreciate feedback from anyone who has one of these. At the top of my list is a Fort Knox Defender safe. This is there no-frills model that can still have a lot of security upgrades added to it. Corner bolts, body and door steel thickness upgrade (although I don't know what to. Their standard is 10ga), inner lining and of course fire proofing. roughly $4000 Next is Sturdy Safe. I really like this safe because I can upgrade it to 4ga steel (almost 1/4") and add another layer of 10ga stainless steel to prevent torch attacks. Plus I can add a 1/4" stainless steel plate over the locking mechanism and a diamond/carbide resistant enclosure to the locking mechanism to "keep locksmiths out". What makes me nervous about this safe is they use different materials to fireproof it than any other safe I have seen. Some kind of ceramic mesh and glass filler. The company has done tests of real house burn-downs but has not gotten their safes UL certified. I wrote them an e-mail and they explained it was because the UL certification costs too much. Also, their safes only have locking bolts on two sides of the door but they are anchored into a thick piece of steel on the inside. Lastly is a safe from Brown Safes which build primarily commercial safes and vaults. They use minimum 1/4" steel walls and 1/2" steel door and you can upgrade from there. They are extremely pricy though. So does anybody have any experience with these safe companies?