Bolt or Semi .308?

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by CamoToe1, Nov 5, 2013.

  1. CamoToe1

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    In March I have a hog Hunt planned in Southern Missouri. I'm trying to decide whether to buy a bolt .308 or AR10. I know my AR15 would more than likely do the job... But my wife doesn't need to know that. Here's the criteria.

    1. I live in IL so .308 would mainly be for target practice and occasional hog hunt since they are not legal for deer.
    2. I reload. Currently just .223, but could easily get setup for .308. Just need to get FL or Neck sizing dies depending on gun.
    3. Guns already owned: Ruger 10/22, semi-auto 12g shotgun, G17, 16" BCM/Spikes AR 15 with 6-20x50 Simmons WTC scope on a Burris pepr QD mount.
    4. I have a bin full of mil spec AR parts(miad, midlength moe, RRA Car stock, carbine buffer, etc)
    5. $1,500 max budget.

    I like that my scope could be easily moved to another AR platform leaving more $ for gun. Also, the AR parts could be put to use. A bolt gun should be less $ but then I have rings and a scope to purchase. Given the above info, what would you recommend I add to the safe....first?
     
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  3. CamoToe1

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    Yeah, I read that thread previously. I'm sure the 5.56 will do the job. The hog hunt is helping sell the fact that I NEED another gun. My question is bolt .308 or semi .308? Any advice?
     
  4. Monkeyclaw

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    I'm not a hunter, but why is the .308 not legal for deer?

    I'm looking for a .308 AR-10 style also, so I'm curious what people say. I'm looking at the S&W M&P10, the DPMS, or the new Ruger. I'm shooting plastic and paper though.
     
  5. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    No rifle hunting deer period . Were just to flat land here
     
  6. towboater

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  7. ccrow175

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    M1a
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  9. wittmeba

    wittmeba New Member

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    Personally I'd suggest a good solid .308 bolt action. Take your time with each shot. Hogs are fast and run kinda wild. You won't have much chance if you just spray the area and hope something connects.

    Just my opinion.
     
  10. Monkeyclaw

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    Interesting, thanks! Is it the same in Iowa? That's where I grew up and I never heard anyone mention it.

    For those saying an M1A, that's a big, heavy gun compared to the AR10 copies being talked about.
     
  11. purehavoc

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    I dont know about Iowa , but I would love to go out on a rifle hunt some where . Hell even Missouri sounds like a better place to live than here in this sheister state :D
    Heres my newly acquired AR10, I have a couple things left to replace to make it fulfill my desire I guess . MI 12" hand guard , Low profile gas block and put on the new compensator I just bought

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  12. TruggieTex

    TruggieTex New Member

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    Heavy, yes...
    Manageable for all with a shooting stick or rest...yes
    I own two bolt .308s and an M1A Scout and can shoot the M1A all day....bolt guns, not so much.
     
  13. ccrow175

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    I have two of them, never used one for hunting, but they really arent as bulky as people make them seem. If a soldier can carry one in combat, then throwing it over the shoulder for a hunt shouldnt be a problem. They definately arent as lightweight as an ar10, but your getting the best of both worlds with an m1a.
     
  14. steadyshot

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    If you were interested in the M1A platform, but were concerned about weight and size, you could give the SOCOM16 a look.

    I have one and it's about as small and compact as you will get in a semi auto 308.

    However I think a bolt action rifle would be my choice for hogs.

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    I have a DPMS 308 as well. Here is a pic with it next to the SOCOM16, so you can get an look at the size.

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  15. CamoToe1

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    The M1a is tempting, but probably not gonna fit my $1500 criteria when you factor in glass. I respect the history of the gun, but don't feel like paying the premium for it.

    Two guns I keep coming back to are the S&W m&p 10 or a nice Savage bolt gun with accutrigger and accustock.

    S&W pros: pretty well rounded .308 AR. 18" barrel and plenty light enough to hunt with. Less recoil and easier to modify to my liking.

    Savage pros: accuracy(especially with the ability to hand load) easier on brass, provides a platform for long range shooting, value priced $500-$700(before glass)
     
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  16. Monkeyclaw

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    I have a classic M1A with a walnut stock. It's too heavy to tote around all day. I like it, it's a 'classic', and it's fun to shoot but I'm thinking an AR-10 variant is the way to go. And no, I can't imagine carrying any rife around all day unless I get lost on the way to the plinking area ;)

    I like my AR-15, but my wife has claimed it as hers.... Luckily I'm also happy with the mini-14.
     
  17. JTJ

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    6X is kind of high for hogs. Most hog hunters use a fast handling rifle with a low power scope or red dot. Of course conditions vary and you are the one doing the buying.
     
  18. John_Deer

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    Most people do not keep the first gun they buy for hunting. The first rifle I bought was a remington woodsmaster. It was a royal POS. I sold it, took a loss. Then I bought a browning I still have over 30 years later. Don't feel bad if this gun doesn't work out. I can tell you this much a 10 lb plus rifle gets heavy and you will have a hard time shooting it free handed, especially if it is poorly balanced.
     
  19. chloeshooter

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    Your collection needs a bolt gun. They are more accurate for long distance shooting. Your bin full of AR 15 parts ain't going to translate over to .308 very well, maybe the furniture and a few other pieces

    On your budget you can choose from a number of great rifles. Rem 700 would be my choice, or a Weatherby, many ways to go. are you limited to .308 or is 30-06 on the table?
     
  20. CamoToe1

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    I've been leaning towards bolt gun. 30-06 is not out of the question. Savage seems to offer the most gun out of the box for the price. If the right Rem 700 came along I'd be open to it.

    What are the advantages of .30-06 over .308?