Bolt Action 17HMR

Discussion in '.22 Rifle/Rimfire Discussion' started by 7point62, Dec 29, 2010.

  1. 7point62

    7point62 Lifetime Supporting Member Lifetime Supporter

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    Any recommendations gentlemen?

    Remington rimfires are out. The Ruger 77/17 is a bit pricey. I've added three firearms to my collection this past year and would like to keep it below $500. I'm thinking Savage 93R17XP...Marlin 917.

    I'd like to try it hog and coyote hunting, I think it would be challenging to try for precise headshots with 17hmr.
     
  2. jpattersonnh

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    The 917V is a good rifle, very accurate, decent trigger, excellent price. You could buy one and get some good glass for about $400.00.
    As far as coyotes, Not a good idea.
    Edit: MSRP is about $279.00, but you can usually order one from a local shop for much less if you know them. I'll add what I went through to get her to shoot well.
    When I bought her I was impressed that the rifle came w/ mounts for standard rings. I mounted an old 6-24x40mmAO, bought some ammo, different brands and 17gr and 20gr weights. It would not shoot the 17's well at all. The scope was over powered for the rifle, so I put a Bushnell 4-16x42mmAO that I had returned for repairs to Bushnell on her. I was shooting only 20gr for a while, but still had 300+ rounds of 17gr. Took her out plinking one day and brought 2 boxes of 17's. They were shooting like lasers. It took 150..200 20gr to break the barrel in. It is not a micro groove barrel, none of the 917's are. Now at 100 yards, it will take the head off a chipmunk. They are about 4"-5" long w/ a 1" head. Sometimes they get cut in 1/2. I do know guys that use the .17HMR for coyotes, but I don't. Great on fox and weasels though. If you have a chicken farm nearby, that is where you find them.
     
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  3. trapshooter

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    I recently just got a Savage 93r17 and love it. A Savage could be out of your price range depending on how good your scope is.
     
  4. northhike

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    I just got the Savage 93R17 with accu-trigger for Christmas. My wife picked it up at Gander for $279. Very sweet shooting gun. I also like the Marlin (I have the 982VS in a .22 mag).

    Not sure why people keep saying the .17HMR is not a good coyotes round. :rolleyes: Its a deadly little round and there have been plenty of people who have put down coyotes with it. Is a .22mag better? Sure....a .223 is even better, but if you are a good shot (and the .17HMR is the most accurate rimfire round) then ye'Ole Wiley Coyote is in big trouble. :D

    Just ask this Coyote: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBx4J780nOw[/ame]
     
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  5. cpttango30

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    How fast can you run and how fast can you climb a tree? Hope your not of the big boned verity.

    I have seen hogs take a 45-70 405gr load to the boiler room and keep on coming.
     
  6. jpattersonnh

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    Seriously??? A 40gr CCI Maxi mag HP out of my A-bolt .22WMR is still more accurate at 100 yards then my .17HMR. What do you base this on? You can't say one round is the most accurate because someone like myself will come along and challenge you. Imagine I'm from Missouri, show me!!! Here in the Great White North, we have big coyotes. Beauty Ehh!
    Bad Juju for yotes? That video is not an HMR.
     
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  7. northhike

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    One could say the same for your .22mag. ;) Kind of a catch 22....22mag that is. ;)

    Of course there are many variables to accuracy such as the shooter, the gun design, the trigger and the bore, but the .17HMR round was designed to be an extreamly accurate and flat shooting rimfire round. Throw in the variables I mentioned above with some wind and things can change. Regardless....I am not going to change your mind. You from Missouri. :eek::D
     
  8. 7point62

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    :D Well Cpt, I normally shoot hogs with a 260gr core-locked CJHP sabot slug from a rifled 870 20ga...and I carry a back-up SA 1911 and a kabar...but I've also seen moderate size hogs taken with a 22Mag between the peepers. But that 17HMR MV and the flat trajectory makes me wonder if those little rounds could do some killing with precise placement. There's got to be a fair amount of penetration at 2550fps...
     
  9. jpattersonnh

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    I'm from NY originally!! ;) The newer .22WMR 30gr could be better, but they are loaded,crimped on the ogive which hinders accuracy. The platform has everything to do w/ accuracy. We agree to disagree!!

    7.62, Here is a great article...
    Compared: .17 HMR and .22 WMR (Magnum)
    What I have found w/ the 17gr is they get zero penetration, but explode on impact. The 20gr do much better on Woodchucks, 20..25 pound vermin. Coyotes here can get up to 65 pounds. Average is 45 pounds. Even w/ a 20gr. penetration of the skull, unless it is in the ear or eye is still questionable. At 50 yards it will do the job, but so will a 12ga w/ #4 buck and they don't run. I hate to see any animal suffer and yotes will run.
     
  10. c3shooter

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    I love my Savage 93- but I would NOT be taking it Hog hunting. Yes, it is a very fast, VERY light bullet- which does not translate into penetration.

    Just is case- if anything goes badly.....
    can I have your guns? :D
     
  11. northhike

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    Well NY is not the great white north. I live in Minnesota and if you don't believe this is the great white north....come visit in the winter. ;)

    We got coyotes that get mistaken for wolves. Yep...we will have to agree to disagree. However the original post was about some recommendations so let's get back to our regularly scheduled program. :D.

     
  12. tomrich

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    i have personally killed hogs and coyotes with a savage 93 down here in florida, we usually hunt them with marlin 60 .22... but you cant be scared of the pigs. for a well placed shot a 17 will kill pigs inside 100 yrds, and coyotes to 150. wont drop them, but will definently kill them
     
  13. 7point62

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    Appreciate the advice. 17HMR was unfamiliar territory. I get hankerin for a new gun and I get all fired up about it for a week or so, then I cool off and want something different. Next week it'll be something else...go figure. :rolleyes:
     
  14. Sniper03

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    I have a lot of rifles and weapons but I must be honest. On a whim I was in Wally World one Saturday while my wife was shopping. As usual I was in the sporting goods section when I saw a little Marlin 917-V Heavy Barrel in the case. Like a kid in a toy store it was calling my name and was fairly inexpensive. Anyway I brought it home. A week or so later I put a Rifle Basix Trigger in it. I must say I really enjoy shooting this little rifle as much as any I own. And better yet! 50 rounds only runs me about $12-$14. And accuracy is phenomenal and at 2500 fps. it is fast. The crows hate it!

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  15. jpattersonnh

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    I like this guy!! Crows, not coyotes. I wish here in NH I could use a rifle for crows, Shotgun only.
     
  16. rifleman55

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    Best deal on a .17 would be a Savage.
    A Gunsmith Named Scott Null at Savagegunsmithing offeres a deal where if you get the accuracy package done on any Savage rimfire, he will get you any Savage rifle, any scope, mount and rings at wholesale price.
    His accuracy package runs about $180. and includes Bedding, re crown the muzzle, fantastic trigger job, 1/8" bottom metal and lapping the high spots out of the barrel.
    He did my BRJ 22 LR and it has shot a best 5 shot group just under.1" at 50 yards.
    He a Master Riflesmith and I'm so impressed with my Savage, I still can't get the smile off my face.
    The .17's usually shoot .1 to .3" at 100 yards when he's done. The lack of match ammo makes it harder for them to group like a 22lr because of the good ammo available for them.
    You can reach him at 208-313-1570 or SavageGunsmithing
    He sure did me right.

    John K
     
  17. big shrek

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    Well, if ya want something to drool over...the new Marlins are now out...
    Marlin Model XT Series