Boeing moving 787 production

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by boatme98, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. boatme98

    boatme98 Well-Known Member

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    Boeing is moving all of its 787 production to an existing facility in Charleston, SC.
    With the wuflu virus slowdown, they claim they claim they don't need two lines. Of course SC is a "right to work" state, so perhaps that had some bearing on the decision. ;)
    Or maybe they can see the writing on the wall, vis a vis socialism, employee cost of living, and ever increasing taxes in the once great state of Washington.
    A lot of the air industry has moved to the south.
    The 767 and 747 will still be made at the Everett plant.
    With about 30,000 employees at the Washington facility (70,000 total in Wash.) and 7000 in charleston, they have not announced how many employees will be relocated.
     
  2. Mister Dave

    Mister Dave Well-Known Member

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    Too close to Seattle.
     
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  3. alsaqr

    alsaqr Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Boeing is cutting costs. Boeing is hemorrhaging money after the 727 Max debacle; that plane remains grounded after the revelation of a cozy relationship between federal air safety personnel and Boeing.

    This stuff bodes well for Airbus.
     
  4. Mister Dave

    Mister Dave Well-Known Member

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  5. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It would be nice if they abandoned Washington altogether.
     
  6. sheepdawg

    sheepdawg Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Obama's self appointed National Labor Relations Board sued Boeing to prevent them from moving to a non union plant back in 2011. Democrats like to use government's unlimited clout and funds to help their union friends.
     
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  7. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Boeing can blame its problems on it's own management. They cut corners for profits and it came back to bite them in the butt after they killed two planeloads of people. Senior management will still be fine, it is the workers that always get the short end of the stick.
     
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  8. sheepdawg

    sheepdawg Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I wonder what kind of money and benefits it's workers are pulling in. I bet the stick isn't that short.
     
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  9. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    And unions never get blamed for the schidt they pull.
     
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  10. sheepdawg

    sheepdawg Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Well I was manufacturer's rep for 25 years in the paint business out of a very non union town, Memphis, TN. Any bid or inroad we made into a union town like St. Louis was a pain in the rear extremities. The unions have to be treated as an expense to be considered when figuring anything on your job if you catch my drift. Everyone in St. Louis knew it but coming from Memphis, trying to break into the St. Louis territory with a superior product at a good price meant nothing, you had to play the little game. The Mexican apartment painters loved us though. All you had to do was show up at the jobsite trailer with a decent product and a couple of cases of cervezas at 5pm every now and then, then prove you can keep up with them beer for beer and you were in. Made some good friends with them, good friends.
     
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  11. Chainfire

    Chainfire Well-Known Member Supporter

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    What does that even mean?

    Do you think that the Unions are responsible for the executive decisions made in Boeing? Those two planes did not fall out of the sky because a Union worker put a widget in backwards, they failed because a systemic problem in the leadership of the company. Boeing is not the company it was in the 1960s and 70s when their products put men in space and on the moon. They are no longer the leading airplane designer and builder in the world because they went for profits over safety. Corporate greed, nothing more or less.

    The same thing that has happened to Boeing is happening to the rest of the United States, and for the same reason.
     
  12. Gatoragn

    Gatoragn Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Union actions are considered by executives when decisions are being made.

    A company I once worked for had a plant that the contract was approaching expiration and the union chose not to send a notice of intent to renegotiate, so the company chose to "lock them out". A year or so later, the union took a reduction in holidays and other concessions to go back to work.

    Another group decided to show their fannies and threatened to strike and drug out negotiations, a year into the new contract the company closed the plant. The studies the company did for the strike plan pointed out how the company could operate without that plant.

    Greed can be a double edged blade and unions are not blameless in what going on with a lot of formerly great companies.
     
  13. locutus

    locutus Well-Known Member Supporter

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    If ya wanna see real greed, look no farther than the major labor unions.

    Corporations built America. Unions have tried to tear America down.
     
  14. sheepdawg

    sheepdawg Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It doesn't take a union for a company to make a quality product just as it doesn't take a union to have a plant full of happy, well paid efficient employees. The auto plants in the south are a fine example of this. Time after time the unions have attempted to organize in these plants only to be turned down by the employees.

    Many unions are corrupt, I know this for a fact. Corporations are in business to make profits, none of them stay open by not making one.
     
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  15. ellis36

    ellis36 Well-Known Member Supporter

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