BOB The Basics

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  1. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

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    OK I am in need of building a Bug Out Bag (BOB) like many. I am unsure of the basics that need to go into one. So Dillinger, and other uber cool BOB gods List what is the basics that HAVE to be in every bag.

    1. Bag
    2. Knife
    3. Meds/First Aid Kit.
    4. Fire starting equipment
    5. Go from there.......
     
  2. Dillinger

    Dillinger New Member

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    Man, we have a ton of BOB threads going all of a sudden.

    I think everyone should have the basics, medically ( prescriptions, bandages, compresses, etc. ). That is number one in my book.

    Number two is a way to get and purify water, because you will need it. Let's face it, there is a ton of water out there, but if you can't drink it, what good does it do you?

    A compass, preferably with a straight edge and ruler and a signal mirror if you can afford it. At least a compass and know how to use it.

    A way to start a fire. You don't NEED a $30 or $50 instant fire kit. Some good quality wood stick matches that are stored in a ziploc bag can work if you take your time and are careful.

    Cotton balls covered in vaseline or other semi solid flammable solutions are cheap and easy to procure. With this method, make sure and plan on changing them out about once every 6 to 9 months because of the chemical breakdown that can occur, leaving you with a pile of jelly. :eek:

    A good knife is a must. As are some dry socks/underwear ( because if your feet are wet & cold, you are just going to be that much more miserable ).

    I think everyone needs a foldable poncho or small tarp, along with some paracord or mule tape. Something like that to build a bit of a lean to if the need arises.

    A lot of stuff for BOB can be had cheap if you keep your eyes open. For instance, ketchup and mustard packets, salt & pepper packets. Seem like little things, and they are, but they can be REALLY nice to have when you are eating food you wouldn't rather.

    15' or 20' of coiled fishing line and a couple of small hooks weigh close to nothing, but they can be VERY useful.

    A good hat to keep the rain and sun off your neck.

    Probably about a dozen more cheap things that will come to me while I am making dinner.

    See yah for now Tango....
     

  3. bkt

    bkt New Member

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    Why? What do you want it to be able to do for you?

    I'm not trying to be a jerk. But the idea of having everything you need in a backpack isn't realistic until you define what "everything you need" is.

    Assuming you're looking for a pack that can help you if you're away from home and you want to get to a known place of safety, you will want some water or a means to purify water, a means to make fire, a shelter (like a tarp, some rope, a knife), maybe some spare clothes or clothes appropriate to the season, maps, a compass, some cash, and a couple granola bars or something else to eat.

    This should go a long way to getting you to your desired destination.

    But as you think about it, you wonder...what if it takes longer than a day? What if I need a medical kit or trauma kit? What if there are others with me? What if there are zombies all around and I have to be armed? In an instant, you can fill a duffel bag a couple times over.

    Figure out what you think you want a BoB to do for you. Build your BoB based on that. Keep your BoB with you or it won't help you when you need it.
     
  4. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Basics Tango?

    Fire Starter and dry kindling, Water purifier, Shelter (as per JD), Knife, Hand Ax (or really big knife), fishing line (hooks, weights, etc.), small caliber hand gun 9MM or .22LR and 100 rounds of ammo, Sleep Sack or emergency sleep bag, 1 wool blanket, 1 MRE, 1 can Corned beef, 1 can pork and beans, Salt, Sugar, Flour, 1 compact wood fired pack stove (plans here http://www.thru-hiker.com/projects/nimblewill_stove.php or an empty #10 can, a complete change of clothes in a water proof bag, a dry pair of shoes, two rolls of TP, 1 newspaper in a water proof bag, 1 mess kit, 1 set of camping silver ware (NO Plastic), Faraday Flashlight, Dynamo Radio, Compass, Map of the State I live in or am visiting, 1 Emergency Medical kit with sugrical kit.

    More than I would have thought!! And I forgot the damned candles!!

    Best youtube vid on making your own wood camp stove [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMfbt2bQC7g[/ame]
     
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  5. Franciscomv

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    There are quite a few books written on the subject of survival, but few that deal with kits in detail. A while ago I picked up a copy of "Build the perfect survival kit" by John McCann and found it quite useful.

    While I don't agree with some of the author's gear choices, he does provide a good framework to help organize kit-building a bit better. It has loads of good pictures and sensible advice. A very worthy investment of $10. Amazon.com: Build the Perfect Survival Kit (0046081009679): John D. McCann: Books

    Each author has his own list of categories into which they group the different components of each survival kit (whether it's a tiny Altoids tin PSK or a full blown earthquake kit), read a few articles and choose whichever criteria you like best. They are all pretty similar. I like writing a "plan" for each of my kits, listing each component under the appropiate category, and playing around with them on paper before I set out to get it all together. It helps me see holes in my kit.

    Here's a good example of a large earthquake/natural disaster kit my Doug Ritter:
    EQUIPPED TO SURVIVE (tm) - Earthquake & Disaster Preparedness Kits

    Something that can't be stressed enough is training. Same as with a gun, the best gear won't be worth sh%t if you don't know what you're doing and good training will help you overcome tough situations without the ideal equipment. You can take first aid courses at a lot of places (from very basic ones to more advanced wilderness first responder courses), next time you go camping try using your firesteel or some other technique to light your fire (practicing with wet wood or in the rain is also good). Trying to keep fit is also an important survival tool (the best BOB in the Universe is worthless if you can't carry it!).
     
  6. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    This is what's in my Truck Bag:

    Spare socks & underwear
    Sweater
    Poncho
    Hat
    Trail bars
    Small boxes of Raisins
    two bottles of water
    Canteen (empty)
    Flashlight
    Multitool
    Knife
    First Aid kit
    Matches/firestarter
    Compass
    Paracord
    Small Binoculars

    And if I ever get out of California, a pistol, mags and ammunition.
     
  7. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

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    Has anyone ever used one of those sillya$$ aluminum foil looking space blankets? I've got a couple, but have never had occaision to even open one up.
     
  8. dunerunner

    dunerunner New Member

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    Makes a good signaling device! I read somewhere it will hide a thermal signature.
     
  9. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Yes, the mylar blankets work. Not the ideal, but better than shivering- and they do a good job of stopping WIND. Everyone will have different contents, different needs, different climates. I look at food, water, shelter, fire, medical, defense, tools, navigation. Have had an AWCRAP kit that could slip in my pocket, and one that fitted in a Kelty Pack. One item to consider- weighs little, not much bulk- but if you ever REALLY need to get thru a locked gate, a couple of hacksaw blades could be worth their weight in uranium.
     
  10. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Hmm, hacksaw blades. Brilliant idea! Thanks for the tip. :)
     
  11. Franciscomv

    Franciscomv New Member

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    There are several different types, I used them a couple of times and they worked well (they were the sturdier ones, not the ultra-compact ones).

    The first time I used it was in a canoe trip with my dad and my brother, a sudden storm caught us by surprise, temperature drop very quickly. It helped my brother recover his body temperature.

    Second time was at mount Salkantay in the Peruvian Andes, after falling into a creek and getting completely soaked (not too enjoyable when you're 4000 meters high and it's cold). It helped, but getting into a nice (dry!) down sleeping bag is what really made the difference.

    I used it to reflect heat from a fire when sleeping in a lean to type of shelter, and it was quite good for that.

    It's also a decent signalling device.
     
  12. Tuco

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    I don't even have a BOB, but I have looked into it quite a bit. I found you can get the reflective type bags instead of the blankets for only a few dollars more. They seemed like an intelligent choice.
    Edit: http://www.rei.com/product/357005/space-emergency-bag

    Also, as for fishing line and hooks, I have seen mechanisms that hook fish when triggered without you having to man the pole. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
    Edit: http://www.bestglide.com/Military_Speedhook_Info.html

    Finally, I have just gotten into chia seeds. They keep for up to two years and are very good for you. Supposedly, the Aztecs could eat a tablespoon worth and it would sustain a person for 24 hours. After eating them myself, I understand why that story has currency.
    Edit: These can be purchased at a health food store for half the price ($6.50 lb) of Whole Foods.

    Maybe if I can get a job, I'll put a bag together.
     
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  13. hydrashok

    hydrashok New Member

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    I've never heard of this??? Have you tried 'em?? Do they work??

    Sounds like a great weight loss strategy to me!
     
  14. Tuco

    Tuco New Member

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    Hydrashok,

    I eat three tablespoons per day. I'm not trying to lose weight, but they are really good for you, and yes, they are good for weight loss. You put them in water at 1 part seed to 9 parts water/any other liquid. After about 30 minutes, a gel starts to form around the seed. Stir in 1 table spoon of seed at that point with whatever you are drinking--the gel is no longer noticeable, and there is no taste, but the gel will displace volume in your stomach, hence they are good for weight-loss.

    I want a years supply of food. I know this is kind of the opposite of a BOB, but I think it is a good idea to have. These seeds keep for 2 years due to there extreme antioxidant content. They don't take up much room. They take no real preparation.

    They don't really require a liquid, but you will need some water anyway for a BOB. Since you put these in liquid, they won't make you thirsty. I know there are bars that claim not to induce thirst, and I think that's great. I'm just sayin'.

    BTW, if you were to put these in a BOB, and you decide to drink them with water, the ratio should be 1 part seed to maybe 30 or more parts water.
     
  15. Steve32

    Steve32 New Member

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    Don't forget the multitool!

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1IiX7rNHok]Gerber Black Multi-Plier 600 - Bluntnose Pliers 07520-G1 - YouTube[/ame]

    :)