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Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by txpossum, Jun 19, 2013.

  1. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    How important is magazine capacity in choosing a handgun, and why?

    I sorta take the 1911 as my basic standard. As long as it holds seven or eight rounds, I'm good. If I were really worried about it, I'd carry an extra magazine or two on my belt, but I don't. Seems a little excessive. Oh, there's probably more ammo in the car if I get caught away from home when the zombie war breaks out, but as a general rule I'm fine with seven rounds on my person.

    It's not that I've never had the option of carrying more ammo. I've had a couple of Hi-Powers, a Glock 23, and a Para Ordanance P-14, but never really took to them as a daily carry gun, which, as stated elsewhere, for the last 15 years or so has usually be a Springfield 1911 or a .40 Firestar.

    It actually seemed weird that the Glock held so many rounds. I'd look at the filled magazine and think "what am I gonna DO with all these extra bullets".

    So . . . how many bullets do you think you need, and WHY?
     
  2. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    To me it is not really about how many I need. I often carry a gun with 5 or 6 rounds in it. To me it is about the left slowly taking away our rights. The original ban limited us to 10. Now NY is limiting to 7. Is 5 going to be the next number? Magazine limits are pointless. A practiced shooter can reload way too fast for someone to rush them. Unless someone is within a few feet of me I can even use a speedloader with a revolver within just a few seconds. And with magazines...don't even think about it. I have seen guys that can seat a mag before the empty hits the ground! And I am not talking about Stalone in The Expendables. Go watch and IDPA match. Some of the people there are incredible.
     

  3. JimRau

    JimRau Well-Known Member Supporter

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    There is NO WAY to know how many 'bullets' you may need.
    I would rather have MANY left over than be ONE short!!!;)
    But realistically speaking:
    1. There is a rather low probability of you needing to fire your weapon as a civilian CC person.
    2. It will depend on how well you wish to be prepared and in what environment you carry.
    3. I tell those I instruct to carry as much gun and as many rounds as they can comfortably, and as many as gives them the confidence they need to feel safe.:)
    Personally I carry a 6906 with a spare 15 rd mag most of the time. When I carry my SP101 I carry one extra speed strip.
    To each his own!
     
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    purehavoc New Member

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    Guess it depends on the situation, Take 2 minutes and watch this its worth it


    [ame]http://youtu.be/7F1nPSNnaBo[/ame]
     
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  5. Fathead00

    Fathead00 New Member

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    I usually have one spare mag with me. I just switch over to carrying my SR1911 from my G35. I do miss have 31 rounds compared to 16, but I'm confident with both firearms. ;)
     
  6. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    I don't disagree. And I do think it would be a better idea if I did carry at least one extra mag on my person, but I usually don't. I can see situations where I might take extra precautions. As you say, one never really knows how many rounds they will need, but I feel confident with eight shots of .45 or .40, partly because I feel pretty good about my ability to hit what I shoot at.
    I don't even feel too unarmed if I have a knife in my pocket. (I know, I know, don't bring a . . . ). Now, if I don't have a gun OR a knife, then I start to feel sorta naked.
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    The people who want to limit the mag capacity have another plan in place.

    Look at hunting. There are caps on the number of rounds a firearm can accommodate. This is to allow a "sporting chance" for the prey.

    By limiting the magazine capacities of magazines used in self defense, the perpetrator is also given a "sporting chance" to serve the time (if convicted) and have the right to vote reinstated upon completion of the sentence.

    Who are they going to vote for?????
     
  8. txpossum

    txpossum New Member

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    Hmmm. I am against legislation to limit magazine capacity, but the purpose of this thread was not so much geared toward whether or not high cap mags are "needed", but rather how important this factor is in choosing a handgun, and why.
     
  9. HankStone

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    Without getting into six or a hundred round drum,it's the kill shot that counts,when I was a young shooter we practiced instinctive shooting,the sights were removed and we shot by pure instinct,it works with practice but you cant lose your cool in combat situations,every round is a kill shot.
     
  10. c3shooter

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    Welllll.......

    My two "every day carry" guns are either a S&W Mdl 36 Chief's Special, or a ParaOrdnance C 7/45. One is 5 shots, one 7 (+1 up the spout)

    I would not feel comfortable with a one or two shot derringer. The model 36 was chosen due to weight/ size. I am no longer in the profession of going after bad people- if I use a gun, I plan to be using it to give me time to run.

    Could I need more than 5 shots? Yep. Assuming that you you will miss (50%?) and that you will need at least a double tap, if I have more than one assailant, I'm coming up dry early. Keep a speed strip in pocket. That's 10 rounds.

    Back in the day, I carried spare mags. Speed loader pouches. Browning Hi-Power with 13 round mags. But I was conciously dressed to conceal. And not wearing shorts and a T-shirt, on my way to Home Depot.
     
  11. HighSpeed

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    I'll assume since you're referencing choosing a handgun that we're talking about normal, civilian CCW. I really don't think there's an issue with capacity and what one person chooses over another. I've carried a five shot air weight as well as full sized Glocks and Sigs, all depending on the weather and what I could dress around.

    I think the bare minimum for any defense handgun should be 5, and that's just the starting point. 7 or 8 is better... Who knows when a bad primer might pop up? I prefer to have 10 or more, just as a precaution, but I wouldn't feel underpowered with just my Colt Commander and 8 rds. Personally, I think reliability and familiarity of the gun is more important than capacity for CCW.
     
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  12. rickster

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    My everyday ccw is a PT740 which is 6+1. Additionally I carry one and sometimes two 6 round mags depending on clothing. Although, when clothing limits me to just the handgun I feel 7 rounds should be enough.
     
  13. HighSpeed

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    ETA: I know I should probably carry an extra mag, but more often than not I just have one in the gun. Lately it's a G30, 19 or 26.
     
  14. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Both my carries are 5+1 one in .45 and one in 9mm depending on how thin I want to feel , I dont carry a extra mag , I probably should but again Im not looking for a shoot out. Im looking to stop the threat and move away as quickly as possible from the situation
     
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  15. texaswoodworker

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    On the 1911, if you carry at least one extra mag, you have 14-16 rounds of 45 ACP at your disposal. Even more if you have a 1911 that accepts double stack mags.

    That SHOULD be enough for most situations. The chances of needing more are extremely slim.

    That said, people should be allowed to decide for themselves how many rounds they need. That is their RIGHT.
     
  16. CHLChris

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    Some people feel that 45acp is some sort of magic bullet, requiring fewer rounds.

    The fact is that some bad guys will run at the sight of a gun, even a 22lr. Another subset of bad guys will stop (or run away) after being shot a single time, regardless of caliber. In these cases ANY gun would be effective to end the threat.

    The real problem is a third level of assailant: the kind that won't stop unless their body--through blood loss or CNS interruption--is forced to stop. For those situations, perhaps a Glock 17 with a magazine reload won't do the trick.

    What's the answer? I suppose there isn't one. I ALWAYS carry an extra magazine to whatever gun I am carrying at the time, but that is more because of a possible failure, not because I'm going to perform any tactical reloads.

    I'm most worried about the stress that I'll be under in a critical situation. I'd just rather have more rounds than fewer rounds. And yes, 45acp is better than 9mm!
     
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    11B3OJ3 New Member

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    I used the quote function wrong. Busch league lol...
     
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    Quick poster about that...

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  19. BeyondTheBox

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    If I'm looking at two guns that are equal in all other ways except capacity and I don't have to sacrifice concealability for the one with more, I'll of course get it. But aside from that, it's not at all a factor for me.

    I've always figured that as long as I've got at least six, I'm good for most civilian defensive situations, which is the purpose of my guns.
     
  20. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    IMO, the magazine is the weakest link in the setup.

    I carry extra fuses in my car (just in case).
    I have lanterns in my house (just in case).
    I carry extra band-aids in my wallet (just in case).
    I keep extra pens in my desk (just in case).

    I carry an extra magazine (just in case).
    (And it doesn't matter which pistol I'm carrying at that time.)