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Antone here ever hear of 72 grain ap m249. This came up in a trade and ive never heard of it. Whats it worth
 

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sorry- I am a little confused- do you mean ammo FOR an M249? Because I have not heard of an M249 cartridge.

The black tipped 5.56 NATO cartridge is the M995, and the bullet weighs 52 grains. They can be checked with a magnet (steel core). The SS109 was also steel cored. Do not recall any NATO ammo being 74 grains.

Some data for you-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56×45mm_NATO#Military_cartridge_types
 

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sorry- I am a little confused- do you mean ammo FOR an M249? Because I have not heard of an M249 cartridge.

The black tipped 5.56 NATO cartridge is the M995, and the bullet weighs 52 grains. They can be checked with a magnet (steel core). The SS109 was also steel cored. Do not recall any NATO ammo being 74 grains.

Some data for you-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO#Military_cartridge_types
It could be that one. Ive nwver seen those are they rare, worth anything
 

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Well the M249 is a gun not a cartridge like C3 said. So that's a red flag.

Black tip= AP

The only AP ammo I am aware of that can be privately owned is the M2 AP 30-06. And they don't even make it anymore. Red flag

Any AP ammo will have magnetic characteristics. If the ammo you are talking about dose not attract a magnet red flag.

And above all. When in doubt trust in C3. The man knows more about any gun or ammo than the people that created them.
 

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Well the M249 is a gun not a cartridge like C3 said. So that's a red flag.

Black tip= AP

The only AP ammo I am aware of that can be privately owned is the M2 AP 30-06. And they don't even make it anymore. Red flag

Any AP ammo will have magnetic characteristics. If the ammo you are talking about dose not attract a magnet red flag.

And above all. When in doubt trust in C3. The man knows more about any gun or ammo than the people that created them.
Yea, he said m249 and i knew that was a mg ao i thiught that was op. I dont even want to mess with it if i cant privately own it. Thanks for the advice. Always when in doubt i ask you folks
 

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Their are Federal restrictions on MAKING or IMPORTING AP PISTOL ammo. None on selling it that I know of. And just about any rifle ammo will punch soft body armor- it was made to stop handgun ammo.

Frankly, I don't think seller has a clue what he has, and I tend to shy away from a lot of those folks.
 

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Their are Federal restrictions on MAKING or IMPORTING AP PISTOL ammo. None on selling it that I know of. And just about any rifle ammo will punch soft body armor- it was made to stop handgun ammo.

Frankly, I don't think seller has a clue what he has, and I tend to shy away from a lot of those folks.
True too many red flags and the troubles not worth the cool factor.
 

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Pull a bullet and weigh it. If it's 52 grain AP, you have some excellent ammo, and there is no law stopping you from owning or shooting it.
 

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Actually, the 5.56 green tip is a steel cone that is inside the jacket metal, and ahead of the lead core. No steel on the outside at the tip. And yes, you can buy it.

5.56 green tip.jpg
 

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Actually, the 5.56 green tip is a steel cone that is inside the jacket metal, and ahead of the lead core. No steel on the outside at the tip. And yes, you can buy it.
Hey c3. Why is there lake city and federal M855? I thank I have heard one company owns the other or something like that. But why do I see some M855 aka NATO green tip say fed and some say LC?
 

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Actually, the 5.56 green tip is a steel cone that is inside the jacket metal, and ahead of the lead core. No steel on the outside at the tip. And yes, you can buy it.
I have lots of those, read somewhere that the black tips are stronger but i have no knowledge of this being true
 

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LC is Lake City Ammuntion Plant. a govt facility. Operated by a civilian company for the military, and they sell their excess production. Federal is a private company, running their own plant.
 

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LC is Lake City Ammuntion Plant. a govt facility. Operated by a civilian company for the military, and they sell their excess production. Federal is a private company, running their own plant.
So is there any difference between the 2. Other than the box and the head stamp.
 

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No.

Lake City is run for the Army by Federal.

You will also see WCC head stamps. Winchester Cartridge Co.

And RA. Remington Arms
 

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M-855 is simply a designation the military puts on the 62 gr enhanced penetration ammo. Various suppliers make it. Just like "M-16" is a designation for a particular rifle. It has been made by several suppliers.
 

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M-855 is simply a designation the military puts on the 62 gr enhanced penetration ammo. Various suppliers make it. Just like "M-16" is a designation for a particular rifle. It has been made by several suppliers.
So it's kind of like the name for a specific model, such as how we have AR's but we have specific models of AR's, like M&P15
 
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