Black Powder Revolver/Pistol

Discussion in 'Blackpowder & Musket' started by vsorrentino, Jan 1, 2011.

  1. vsorrentino

    vsorrentino New Member

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    Just got a Black Powder Pistol/Revolver and had some fun at the range.

    What an experience..

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yeeleq456g]YouTube - Black Powder Pistol/Revolver by FirearmPop[/ame]YouTube - Black Powder Pistol/Revolver by FirearmPop
     
  2. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    Pretty cool. Welcome to the dark side.:D Couple of things. Your misfires were probably caused by the caps not being fully seated. You used #11's and most revolvers take #10. Yours were probably backing off the nipples. Never let a SA hammer down from half cock. Always cock it fully and let it down from there unless you just like the looks of a scratch around the cylinder from the bolt dragging. Loose powder performs better than pellets. Maybe it was from the location of the mic but a few of your shots sounded less than satisfactory. FWIW the gun you were using didn't exist in the real world. It's called a Sheriffs model .44 Colt. What it is is a shortened 51 Navy in the wrong caliber. 51 Navies were .36, .36 being the Navy caliber and .44 being the Army caliber. Not digging on you glad you got it and have fun with it. That's what it's really all about. I'm just a little more traditionally minded.
     

  3. vsorrentino

    vsorrentino New Member

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    THANKS! I really appriecate the advise and assistance. As you can see I am a novice at this andwant to learn as much as possible. Thanks again..
     
  4. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    My question is and I meant to ask before and forgot. How did you clean it? You did clean it right?:D
     
  5. vsorrentino

    vsorrentino New Member

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    Yes I did, I broke the gun down, Even had a nipple wrench, and used Hopes #9. It did a nice job. I found a vid on youtube had many videos on how to take it apart.
     
  6. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    On a Colt the wedge doesn't go all the way through. On a new gun it should be about flush on the off side. The screw on a repro serves no purpose other than to keep the wedge from coming completely out on disassembly so it should not be removed. Hot soapy water works best for cleaning. No petroleum based lubes in the bore or chambers. They're ok in the action. I just remove the grips and barrel and all metal parts go in the water. A few swipes with a tight fitting patch and the bore and chambers are clean and shiny. I swish the action around in the water a few times and let it drain while I'm doing the rest and then spray it out liberally with WD-40 and follow up with Remoil. I coat the bore and chambers with a light coat of Bore Butter. Rubbing alcohol will remove it prior to loading. Always fire a cap on empty chambers before loading to make sure everything is clear. Windex in a spray bottle will keep it running when it starts to get stiff after a few cylinders are fired. Balistol is good stuff too but is kinda smelly. Wonder Wads are cheaper than what you had. I make my own or you can use Crisco or Bore Butter over the balls in lieu of wads but it's messy and both are runny in summer heat.
    Any questions feel free to ask.
     
  7. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    I myself am looking into getting a black powder revovler for several reasons. One I love the look of the old navy colts and two you can buy a conversion cylinder to fire, I believe, 45LC.
     
  8. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    Cowboy loads or full cases of bp, not full power smokeless loads.
     
  9. doctherock

    doctherock New Member

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    I just personally have always loved the look. Just to have one on display would be a plus for me.
     
  10. rdstrain49

    rdstrain49 New Member

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    Navies are 36 cal. 45 LC probably won't work too well. Armies on the other hand:)
     
  11. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I have had the 2 1851 Navy .44 Caliber revolvers (1 mine and the other for the wife) for little over a month. Range time; but, something always comes up, errands for the honey do list and the weather at the outdoor range can be a wind issue - no protection from the elements. Cover from the sun only!

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    Last edited: Jan 5, 2011
  12. Hawg

    Hawg Active Member

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    Ok heres the deal. Historically .36 is the Navy caliber, .44 is Army. Pietta makes what they call a .44 51 Navy. It's a gun that never was, even the Confederate brass frames were all .36 caliber. Most of the Pietta .44 Navies are brass. These should never be used with conversion cylinders or full black powder loads. They won't blow up but it wont take many rounds to beat the brass frame up and stretch it beyond use.
     
  13. Rick1967

    Rick1967 Well-Known Member

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    My wife gave me one of the .44 Navy guns for Christmas. It is fun to shoot. But I was suprized at how little recoil it has. I was expecting something like a 44 special. But it is more like a .22. Funny, it was like the projectile was going in slow motion compared to my modern guns. Really is a blast to shoot though.
     
  14. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I would love to get my hands on an original; but, that is a price out of my range.

    I purchased them for some additional range time enjoyment and try to get the wife into it as well.

    Conversion cylinders are a no-no; however, will pick-up a spare cylinder down the road. No intentions on using full loads, nor using the prepared black powder. I look at Cabela's, those powder loads for the .44/.45 are running 30 grain pellets - too high. Reviewing the manual indicates max 15 grain.

    I am going to the range in the morning.
     
  15. Reinhard

    Reinhard New Member Supporter

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    Hawg has given you good advice on cleaning your gun,don't use the solvents
    I shoot my San Marco for fiftheen years now ,never used any solvents
    the colours on your gun will still be as new after many years
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  16. Bigcountry02

    Bigcountry02 Coffee! If your not shaking, you need another cup Supporter

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    I just wish mother nature worked in our favor to shoot black powder. Wind was not go today on the range, it let up a little; but, by that time four hours had gone by and it was time to head home.
     
  17. Scratchammo

    Scratchammo New Member

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    I was forced to carry one of these during the ammo drought, I can still drive tacs with my 5-1/2".
     
  18. vsorrentino

    vsorrentino New Member

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    Lessons Learned

    See my updated video.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXsHpmx9vzc]YouTube - Black Powder Pistol/Revolver 2 by FirearmPop[/ame]
     
  19. BlueXJ

    BlueXJ New Member

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    Great info

    I really enjoyed the videos. I learned alot and am better equipped to start shooting Black Powder now.