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Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by Back40Bob, Apr 19, 2009.
Looking for a small safe/vault to store handgun in. Biometrics for quick access. Any suggestions?
Cabela's and other places sell a unit that can store many fingerprints for quick access. I believe it comes in a couple of sizes.
Don't? I don't think they have all the bugs worked out perfect yet. Most of the ones I looked at had very bad reviews about them not working. A biometric safe is something I wouldn't even consider buying. Better off getting something that is reliable when it counts, kind of like your personal protection firearm.
I would not own one, I just told him where he can find one. I don't want to trade safety for electronic reliability. I would not own a key pad entry one either, for first defense response weapon.
I am not familiar enough with them to comment one way or the other.
If I were to get one, I would make sure there was some other mechanical way to open it up in case of failure, like a backup key or purely mechanical spin lock.
They have back up keys. The point is, why spend an extra $200 on a feature that will not work in an emergency.
Yeah, Don't bother....
I have a Gun Safe that has finger pads that you program.
It has an internal light and key function.
I chose it so more than one person can remember the 4 entry sequence.
I also wanted something that can be opened in the dark by feel and the internal light gives me quick access to both the gun and magazines.
I keep my 45 loaded with one in the chamber, hammer down, so all anyone has to do is cock the hammer and pull the trigger. Eliminates the issue of loading magazines, racking the slide etc. It is almost as simple as a revolver.
I keep mine behind some hanging clothes, fastened to the wall and out of sight. I just reach past the clothes and push the keys to access the 45.
My instructor in my concealed carry class recommended that the firearm be located at least 3 paces from the bed so that when arising from a sound sleep you get blood flowing and brain function operating for situation evaluation before taking action. It also helps prevent shooting your bed partner in bed.
Just some thoughts that work for me
You might want to look at the Titan gun vault. It's not biometric, but it is quick access.
Titan Gun Vault
We have two of these.
Keep away from the biometric crap.
The german government is trying, by law, to get legal gun owners to buy a coded dildo into the gun barrel.
The magic word is armatix
But not only that, they want these to be based on biometric access.
Fact is, that the Chaos Computer Club (CCC) had proven how unsecure fingerprints are and how easily they can be faked.
It isn`t very hard.
Biometric systems might be halfway secure in industrial, government or military area, where the scanners are of much higher quality. But in the private sector, they are crap and not worth the money.
You are much better off taking a gun safe whith pin code access using at least six digits or more or someting like the titan vault.
This is the one I picked up. As little as three programmable key presses or up to six to open, backup keys, lighted, two shelves, unauthorized entry alarms (can be turned off) and detachable base plate.
MidwayUSA - DAC SportSafe
Titan it is!
Thanks all for the input. Exactly the kind of info i was looking for.
I really like the titan and will be purchasing one for my home in Florida and in Colorado.
I agree. My local gun shop has them and he has had to call the rep. several times for malfunctions. One issue is people have a tendency to press too hard on the finger pad and it shoves it in, causing it to stick, making future entries impossible.
here a video of the CCC Berlin, on how to fake fingerprints.....
And that is the reason I wouldn`t want to bet my life on a fingerprint scanner....
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPtzRQNHzl0]YouTube - CCC Anleitung Fingerabdruck fÃ¤lschen[/ame]
PS Don`t be bothered for the german language, I think anybody can see how it is done.