Biometric gun safes

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by mslater, Oct 23, 2010.

  1. mslater

    mslater New Member

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    iam new , and havent purchased a gun yet...take my ccw class next weekend. my wife and my big concern is keeping my small grandkids safe from my gun.i have been looking on the internet for biometric gun safes.is this a good solution for me ? what do i look for ? will i be able to access my gun quickly and easily if i need to ?
     
  2. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    If this is your first gun you are wiser than most to consider the safe before the gun if small children are present. The range and expense of gun boxes are limitless. I've personally never owned any of the electronic lock boxes. I don't like the possibility of my power being cut or batteries failing at the moment I need my gun. I use a steel box w/built in holster that mounts to my bed frame, has a drop open door, and a 5 button "push" combination, all mechanical, no electronics to fail.

    If you on a budget Wal Mart sells small fire boxes w/similar mechanical push button combo's for about 60.00.

    If you want to spend several hundred, the wall mounted bio boxes look very James Bond! I will state that if you don't TRAIN to quickly open any manual combination, you WONT get it open quickly under stress, so perhaps the BIO is your best bet.

    Happy Shopping and Welcome to FTF.

    TACK
     
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  3. orangello

    orangello New Member

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    Do you mean that you don't have a firearm at all, and you are about to get a concealed carry permit?

    If so, a revolver might be simpler to start out with than a semi-auto, magazine-fed pistol. They make some that are smaller & lighter for concealed carry, but smaller, lighter guns usually have a stouter recoil/kick.
     
  4. IXLR8

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    Biometric safes are problem prone. The simpler handgun vaults are a better choice. The 4 finger combination will be sufficient to keep little fingers out of it. Since it is a multi finger combination, chances are they will not be able to open it. The combination you set can require more than one button to be simultaneously pressed, increasing the security. You can set the buttons to beep when pressed, this in addition to a stern warning should keep little ones out. Make sure that it is attached to a fixed item. The cable will allow you to wrap it around a bed frame, or similar fixed item. None of the handgun safes are super secure, because the sheetmetal construction could be compromised by a determined adult.

    I feel secure in using mine, and have never had a problem. Just remember to change the batteries yearly. I mounted mine to the back of my nightstand, so that it is always within reach. I have attached a flashlight to the top, just in case.
     
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  5. kdog

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    Stay away from biometric gun safes or vaults or any other biometric gun saftey gadget. They are not woth the money.
    Within minutes, you will find video manual on how to fake fingerprints in the internet. And if you can find them, kids can find them quicker.
    Prints are all over the house and on the vault itself, what makes it mor unsafe.

    Get a good gun vault with a electronic number lock.
    With a little bit of training, you can enter a six digit pin quick enough to use the gun in an emergency.
     
  6. IXLR8

    IXLR8 New Member

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    When I bought my gun safe, I interviewed a lot of salespeople. I then interviewed a lot of repair people. If you take the total number of malfunctions that owners have with their safes, a startling statistic emerges. Although there are generally not that many total problems, but 85% of the problems are with the electronic locks. Also being an electronic item, in the event of an EMP (read nuclear detonation), it may or probably will fry your electronics. That would be the worst possible time to have that happen, in my opinion...

    A lot of people have little or no problem with an electronic lock, I just would not want to depend on it in a crisis situation. KISS Keep It Simple Stupid...
     
  7. WoodysKJ

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    First thing I would look into is Michigan's ownership responsibility laws, if they have any. Some cities/states REQUIRE a gun to be locked in a safe and away from little hands.

    If your grand kids are around a lot, I would let your son or daughter know that you plan to have a gun in the house, and ask if you could teach the little ones about gun safety. ONLY way to keep children away from guns is to teach them, let them shoot with supervision and take the curiosity out of the equation. Take them ALL (son/daughter and grand kids) target shooting. Show them that gun ownership is a good thing and can be done responsibly. Then get in the habit of either locking the gun up at night when you are not carrying, OR unload it, separate the amo and the gun and practice getting to both and loading so you can when or if you need to.

    If you are new to guns then start with a good wheel gun, no need to remember about safeties and what not. work your way into other semi's and such, and teach what you learn to the youngins.
     
  8. mongoose90

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    From one Michigander to another, Welcome. X2 on what WoodysKJ said. That is what my Dad did with us.
     
  9. mslater

    mslater New Member

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    iam not sure a 1-1/2 and a 2-1/2 year old kid will be ready for a few more years to be taught much of anything that is this important....i really need to have it locked but easily accessible.... it seems to be the general opinion not to trust biometric safes... so i think i will start looking at other safes, i cant and wont carry that much so it will be more for home defense.... thanks for all the input
     
  10. orangello

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    If they are that small, perhaps a smallish revolver for carry & training and an inexpensive pump-action shotgun for use at home. I doubt anybody that young would be able to work the action on the pump well enough; pump shotties are also a bit heavy for the under 5 crowd to handle and too long form any non-contortionist kids to actually shoot themselves with. Pump shotty = very safe, especially relative to a handgun, IMO. A pump 12 guage may also be loud & scary enough to in action to scare the kiddies away from any attraction to it. They are also not so expensive with some decent models priced under $300.

    Good luck with it!
     
  11. gorknoids

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    I have a safe, and it's right where a gun safe should be. Whether that's where my PD firearms are is another question entirely. I concur with Woodsy from the standpoint of education and familiarization of the young'uns. My siblings and I had access to handguns, shotguns and rifles from conception, yet never accidentally shot anyone or used one to commit a crime. Firearms were a means to put food on the table, whether it was a duck, a deer, or a cow. We knew what they were capable of because we were expected to know how to employ them. Not now being a hunter, boxing up my guns for someone to steal makes no sense for me. I like the idea of a bunch of dickweeds spending hours cutting open an empty safe.:D
     
  12. utf59

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    While my wife was pregnant, I asked for a bedside gun safe for Christmas. Our boy is 18 mos. old now, and he's tall enough to operate the doorknobs, which means that without close supervision he can get into anything.

    I can't remember the brand name of the safe, but it has an electronic lock with a four-key combination. It also can be opened with the key (which is what I use). In addition, there is a pair of contacts on the outside of the box; if the batteries die, you can put a 9-volt battery to those contacts and operate the lock. The other feature I really like is that the door is spring-loaded so it can drop down fast when you open it. If you want to open it quietly, though, you'd better hold the door while you activate the lock.
     
  13. WoodysKJ

    WoodysKJ New Member

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    A safe like what is described above MY BE required by state and/or local laws. With grand kids that small I would think just keeping them out of reach, top shelf of a closet, would surfice until the get to be bigger. then either lock em up or teach em.

    Lock up the guns that is.

    This little girl was 4:
    GREAT read!!!!

    either way it is never too early to introduce them, maybe just around and hearing the report, that is how you train a bird dog. early and around the sound to keep them from getting gun shy.
     
  14. john55555

    john55555 New Member

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    I don't know if you have found the safe you are looking for, but I recently bought a biometric fingerprint safe on ebay for about $100. it is spring loaded and works great. I think it is listed under 'Biometric Fingerprint Gun Pistol Safe keyless new NIB' it is wonderful because it can only read your fingerprint and also if the power goes out or in the event of an EMP, you can still open it using a hidden lock on the safe. Its pretty small though, but I only needed it to store my handguns in. It is also padded inside, but I removed the padding pretty easily to fit more in there. Hope this helps!
     
  15. pumpkinball

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    I agree entirely, if old enough they should learn bout 'em. But if too young, Look into somethng simpler. I've been thinking myself about a magnetic system. I can't for the life of me recall the name of them, but it's a magnet that's strong enough to hold the gun under a table or anything of the such, yet, it's not too strong to remove the gun with a simple grab. This is the system I will be aquiring, but just haven't done it yet. With my personal preference, I will be fastening it to the backside of my nightstand. I have two little ones in the house that often come upstairs to wake my wife and I. So I have to depend on myself to get up as soon as they start in the room because it's just laying on the nightstand when I go to bed right now. Plus for my HD shotty, I'll be getting a similar product that's for longguns. It is going to be placed on the back of my headboard. Both well hidden from little fingers and BGs, yet still very quickly accessable. Hope this helps.