Big guns of comedy love 'open carry'

Discussion in 'The Club House' started by sculker, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. sculker

    sculker New Member


    AUSTIN — Texas legislators can't help themselves. Even before their upcoming session hits its stride, they will do something to get national attention, the kind that makes TV hosts snicker and roll their eyes.

    A surefire attention-getter this session will be an anticipated bill to let Texans openly pack pistols on their hips, in their belts or elsewhere in public view as they go about their business.

    Although many other states apparently already allow the practice, the "cowboy" image of holstered Texans strolling down Main Street or through the mall, arms dangling at their sides and wary eyes on the lookout for trouble, is an easy script for late-night satire.

    Remember Matt Dillon, the quick-draw TV marshal?

    The legislation is being promoted by, a national pro-gun group that says it has collected about 50,000 Texas signatures in a campaign that also has included some radio ads across the state.

    Ian McCarthy of Austin, an online marketing entrepreneur who heads the online petition drive, said 44 states already have "open carry" laws. He expects the Texas bill to be sponsored by Rep. Debbie Riddle, R-Tomball.

    Riddle wasn't available for comment, but the bill would fit her legislative record. Two years ago, she co-sponsored the so-called "Castle Doctrine" law making it easier (legally) for Texans to use firearms to defend themselves against intruders in their homes.

    More than 288,000 Texas adults have been licensed under a 1995 law that allows them to carry handguns after completing a firearms safety course. But they have to keep the weapons concealed, and there are restrictions on where they can take them.

    Another major gun bill expected to be debated by lawmakers this year would loosen the restrictions to allow people with handgun licenses to carry their pistols on college campuses.

    Interest in removing the prohibition on carrying guns on campus was sparked by the shooting deaths of 32 students at Virginia Tech University in 2007. Advocates for the change argue that students who are 21 or older and have handgun licenses should have the opportunity to arm themselves against similar attacks.

    Gov. Rick Perry supports, at least in concept, both the open carry and the campus gun proposals but is awaiting details, spokesman Mark Miner said.

    Land Commissioner Jerry Patterson, who as a state senator sponsored the concealed handgun law in 1995, said he also supports the two proposals.

    "Is an openly carried gun more dangerous than a concealed one? I don't think so," Patterson said.

    "Whether it's a shopping mall, a college campus or just on the street, if a person is 21 and licensed (to carry a firearm), what difference does it make?" he asked.

    The fight, however, will be loud and emotional.

    Bruce Elfant, a Travis County constable and gun-control advocate, is worried about both proposals, especially the proposal to allow guns on college campuses, which he believes would be dangerous public policy.

    "The circus is coming to town, and it's always interesting," he said.
  2. BPond

    BPond New Member

    Good for Texas. Nice to know there are at least a handful of government peeps with their heads half-way screwed on straight.

  3. Mark F

    Mark F Active Member Supporter

    We're not there yet.
  4. cpttango30

    cpttango30 New Member

    Don't really see the point in open carry. We can here in VA but you very rarely see anyone do it. In fact in the 6 years of living here I have see two people do it and one was me I didn't like it as I felt I had a target on my back saying look I got a gun kill me first and from behind.
  5. Benning Boy

    Benning Boy New Member

    Let me word this carefully, I personally, that's PERSONALLY, don't like to open carry myself. It's legal here, but has met, on numerous occasions, with police harassment toward the individuals who exercise the right.

    Now, that said, perhaps vigorous exercise of our rights is what is most needed in our society right now. Instead of always trying to defend against every ridiculous bill that comes along, perhaps it's time to push our agenda and make them defend.

    Too often, antis initiate a crazy bill, pro 2A has to defend, and perhaps even give up a concession. A National Open Carry Day could, potentially, put us on the offensive for a change.

    I was frankly kind of shocked that Texas didn't already have OC.
  6. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

    I think right to carry should be a given. That's what 2A is about, at least in part. My concern with open carry is the possible theft and easy access to an openly carried firearm by the wrong person.

    Concealed carry makes more sense to me given the current conditions in our society.
  7. sgtdeath66

    sgtdeath66 New Member

    im with you there, ca357. if your allowed to purcase he firearm you should be able to carry, open or not which ever you decide. i also feel all we should have to do is go to a gov. building take a test and get your license similar to a drivers license, go back every few years to get it renewed and go on your way. hopefully that will happen in the next ten or so years but i doubt it