Big game rifle for "newbie".....

Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by jeepsyco, Aug 11, 2009.

  1. jeepsyco

    jeepsyco New Member

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    Hey guys, I have a boar hunt coming up in Jan and I'm also hoping to go for some black bear as well this year. I'm looking for an affordable rifle that can handle both. I've mostly shot 270's at deer back in the day but that was a good 5-10 years ago.

    Along with those guidelines, I've always wanted to get into long range targets (500 yards plus). Anyone have any ideas?

    As far as preference of a maker....I have a Ruger sp101 that I LOVE so a Tuger would be nice, but anything solid would suffice. Thanks fellas, have a good one.
     
  2. J33Nelson

    J33Nelson New Member

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    What is affordable to you? That word means different things to different people.

    some good options:

    Ruger M77 Hawkeye All Weather in 300 Win. Mag. ($600) (probably the best option)

    Ruger M77 Hawkeye Alaskan in .375 Ruger ($800) (Heavy hitter option)

    Weatherby Mark V Accumark in .300 Weatherby ($1,500) (.30-378 or .338-.375 if you want more power and don't mind buying really expensive ammo)

    Kimber 8400 Police Tactical in .300 Win. Mag. ($1,500) (Good luck finding one)
     
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  3. R-BOLT

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    The above magnum rounds will and are big time hitters, will put anything on the ground in N.A. for sure. You might want to shoot one or more though, befor you purchase. They and the other magnum rounds will have a fair amount of recoil. I am not recoil shy, but switched over to a 7mm-08 this year for my N.A. big game gun. Still shoot a magnum some, but not very necessary in most of my situations. A well placed .308 or 30-06 in a Ruger Hawkeye might do the trick for you also. Would be a little more fun for me in more applications. I really like the scope ring set up on the rugers and the nice heavy bolt. The new trigger on the Hawkeyes is much improved over the previous Rugers.
     
  4. jeepsyco

    jeepsyco New Member

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    Thanks guys. Yeah that 600 dollar amount seems to be in my range.
     
  5. stalkingbear

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    You DON'T need a magnum that'll kick the dogsnot out of you for 98% of the shots you'll likely encounter. The .270 that served you well in the past is just as good today as it was years ago, the game certainly hasn't gotten any tougher, so stick with a "standard" round like the previous poster suggested. Magnums, & their recoil, are NOT conductive to great marksmanship-especially for someone just starting out /again. One of my personal all time favorites is the 7mm08. 7mm08, .308, .270, .280,30-06 is all you'll NEED.
     
  6. slowryde45

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  7. 753X0

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    That looks like a good set-up to me too. Just make sure the scope is decent quality and securely mounted.
    308 or 30-06 would be my preference.
     
  8. stalkingbear

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    I'd HIGHLY recommend you stay AWAY from package deals. The scopes the factories use in package deals (usually) are the cheapest available. MUCH better would be to buy the rifle, mounts, and something like Nikon Prostaff, or Weaver Classic. Both are 3x-9x-40mm, run about 150$, and are the cheapest scopes I'd consider putting on a game rifle. If you choose the cheapest scope you can get (as in package deals), you'll suffer from decreased performance and eventually wind up upgrading anyway. Why waste time & money with inferior optics? I've got a big tub full of them that I've removed for people. Neil






     
  9. Shotgun Shooter

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    +1 on that. Now, I'm not rifle expert, but in general "package" deals seem to be the worst possible way to go. Convenient, yes, but if you want the best you can get, buy individual. That way, you choose what YOU like, not what others have throw together.
    Best of luck.

    S.S.
     
  10. 753X0

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    Thanks for chiming in about the scope/package deal. I was wanting to write the same thing, but being new here, didn't want to make any enemies. That's why I mentioned to make sure the scope was of decent quality.
     
  11. cpttango30

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    Shoot get you a Marlin XL-7 in 270. Loaded it with some ammo that uses a good bullet and call it a day. If you want get a Bushnell 2-7x32 Elite 3200 Rifle Scope for $209 and call it a day.
     
  12. slowryde45

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    no offense taken about the package deals.

    I only suggested them as the o.p. seemed to like the $600 price point. at that price, the package deal would be the way to go. no, you won't get Schmidt & Bender quality glass on it or anything like that. But, I'd be willing to bet that the glass in that package would be as good as most $1-150 scopes out there, regardless of what name is on them, as most of them will be made in China at that price. Not saying that is a bad thing either.

    Even without buying one of their package deals, if you want to stay in that $600 range and still have a decent hunting piece, you'd be hard pressed to beat the savage with the Accu-trigger and Accustock on it.

    and I agree, buying separates is the way most would go, to insure you got the most for your money, or the best of parts. but if all you had in your pocket was $600, I'd still point you at one of those packages ;)

    Or do like I did, start out with a Remington Model 700...that was then, since then it has been modified/upgraded/rebuilt/torn-apart/and rebuilt to it's current state...Mcmillan A5 stock, Lapua .338 Mag w/ custom Krieger barrel and muzzle break, Scmidt & Bender 4-16 x 50 scope. but then again, I've never hunted boar or bear with it ;)

    Slo
     
  13. Silvertip 44

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    I'll have to agree with some of the other posts. If you are truly a newbie to hunting and or shooting high power, get into an adequate but mild round that won't get you to flinching right off the bat. Stay away from the heavy recoil and muzzle blast of the magnums. Take a look at .243, .270, .308 or .30-06.
     
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    Yup, compared to a 30-06, they have a kick, but compared to a .458, they are mild, like I said. And, if I'm hunting any kind of a bear, I want something more than a 30-06. Maybe just personal preference. I'f I'm hunting deer, boar, etc.., 30-06 is a-okay.
     
  17. truevil1313

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    I am in love with my Remington 7mm Mag. I have killed more hogs than I can remember. The 7 mag just anchors them where they are. Remington was wise to put the limbsaver recoil pad on their stocks, it really works. The rifle was only $469, but you will still need a scope, mount and rings.
     
  18. stalkingbear

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    Look-the post title is a rifle for a "newby". Obviously he DON'T to start out with a .375 H&H. If YOU like it, more power to you but I don't think ANY magnum-let alone a big bore is appropriate for a beginner. You MAY have noticed that we didn't recommend a magnum for a reason? I own several magnums but they're NOT for a newby.




     
  19. slowryde45

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