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A shotgun makes a great HD weapon. Maybe the best over all. But that has nothing to do with the 2A.

I've been told for years that if I am against abortion that I shouldn't have one. If I"m against gay marriage I should not marry a gay person. Well...That is 100% correct. I should not get an abortion and I should not marry a gay person. It really does reach to the end of my rights on those matters. So in rebuttal I say if you are against guns then don't buy one. If it's just so called assault rifles then don't buy one. Your right on the subject stops there.

I just do not understand how it's so hard to understand. The 2A is a blanket statement that protects us form everyone that might try to do us harm. Be that some whacked out dope head or whacked out government. Obama's speech the other day seemed to say that there was no way the government would turn tyrannical. I think he just might be right. And what helps that to be right is our right to stop his happy *** if he breaks that promise as he has others.
 

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If they ban assault weapons, shotguns are next, along with 'sniper rifles'. The anti-gun nuts in America work hand in hand with the anti gun nuts in countries that have banned guns.

They'll say no one needs a tube that holds 6-8 rounds!!! That's WAAAYYY more than you need to shoot a deer.
 

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Biden is a Left Wing Socialist Democrat. This is the American ruling class of today. They want to choose you lifes path in everything. Mooshell Obama took fast food from Americas fighting men and school children. Her husband makes beer in the basement of the White House smokes cigarettes and always dines on double cheese burgers.
Biden is saying we need the same laws as Socialist Austraila where the state allows lever action shotguns.:p
 

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Shotguns make great home defense weapons but I havent found one I can easily conceal carry. Largely because of the other stupid laws about barrel and overall length!
 

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Biden, and the rest of the nitwits he runs with, still won't acknowledge that out of a country of over 300 million people, only around 343 gun murders are done with rifles. Only a small percentage of those are the so-called "assault" weapons. Now I know they're stupid but they ain't that stupid. It's not about murder, mass murder or any of that, it's pure and simple about control of us, and fear on their parts. They're afraid if we're pushed to far, we'll push back and they don't like the odds one bit.
 

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Try stuffing a shotgun in your outfit when you go jogging.:p

This is an argument against CCW as well as being anti-gun.
 

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orangello said:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/biden-self-defense-yourself-shotgun-201933598--politics.html;_ylt=Av4_0riiORUwVWlePf4dcMrNt.d_;_ylu=X3oDMTFtMDRsMXFqBG1pdANFeHByZXNzIFRpY2tldCBsaXN0IG1vZHVsZQRwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFMaXZlQmxvZw--;_ylg=X3oDMTJyaWNrOGZiBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMjJhNzdiMGUtYTMyZC0zYWM3LWEwNGMtNGJjNmYzZDYwNDVkBHBzdGNhdANwb2xpdGljcwRwdANzdG9yeXBhZ2U-;_ylv=3

I wish we could view the future to see if it is his offspring who say "get yourself a baseball bat".

He thinks modern sporting rifles are toooooo complicated for public use (gotta admit, the public did vote him back in, so how smart could we be).

I do love a shotgun, but i like my SKS rifle too.
I remember buying my sks before the first ban. I think I paid 200 bucks new out of the crate at my lgs. :-D
 

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Is that what Joes got the SS carrying now, shotguns? I bet not. We the People are too stupid to use a modern weapon? WTF does he think he's talking to, imbeciles? Lets see, My Granddaddies Model 11 Remington 12 gauge semi (Circa 1917) has just as many moving parts in it as an AK(not so many on either). Actually the Model 11's got a polychoke so it has a part the AK doesn't (One of those deadly "Hunting Features").


I guess only big burly guys can defend the home-front cause I know lots of woman that wouldn't even think of trying to hold down a Double Barrel Shotgun much less reload when they hit the ceiling and broke their shoulder! I can see Grandma grabbing the Model 11 now, it was nearly as tall as her! I suppose she can just point, pray and shoot, Biteme says you dont even need much training to fire a shotgun (Isnt that reassuring?)! Hell, shoot right from the hip, always worked on Gun-Smoke! So your husbands in Afghanistan huh, you better just lay down and die or pick up the ole Shotgun and start pumpin!

The real facts are that nearly every single Soldier in my Basic Training Unit could hit their targets accurately by our second live range and most of them had never fired a weapon let alone an M16 Automatic Rifle! Its an easy to fire, accurate, low recoil and reliable weapon that all ages can protect themselves with and shoot Critters, did I say it was easy? It is Joe, maybe not for you but your a Clown!!

Bo Bo Biteme must be Dan Qualle's developmentally disabled Brother(sorry DD Folks, I mean no disrespect), Dan is MENSA in comparison! BHO sends him out to try to talk to the common man and ends up sounding like the town clown. The only Phucken thing worse than BHO as President is Joe Biteme as surrogate Prez if something should happen to BHO! I never thought I would pray for this president to finish out his full term but I cannot imagine if Joe and His "Gorgeous Wife" Move into the big house....
 

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Guess what? A shotgun will keep you a lot safer, a double-barreled shotgun, than the assault weapon in somebody’s hands [who] doesn’t know how to use it, even one who does know how to use it,” the outspoken vice president, a shotgun owner himself, replied. “It’s harder to use an assault weapon to hit something than it is a shotgun. You want to keep people away in an earthquake? Buy some shotgun shells.
So if a shotgun is so much more effective as a weapon then what's his problem with "assault weapons"?. :confused:
 

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I am going to do just as the vice president says,but only because I can't afford an AR-15 and I don't have a defensive long gun anymore since I traded off my 870 to get a Ruger American rifle for hunting season.This time I am thinking Mossberg of some kind like the 500.
 

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Sadly pausing. Waiting for the next nut job to start blowing people away with a shotgun saying Biden made me do it. What an idiot.

"But Biden warned it would be a "terrible mistake" to arm school staff. "The last thing we need to do is be arming school teachers and administrators" who may not have firearm training, he said."

That's about as stupid a statement as I've ever heard. "Hi Ms. Jones. Here's your new classroom, a nice supply of crayons, colored paper, books, .45mm HPs, and a 1911. Enjoy your class." God forbid a TEACHER not be able to learn how to use a firearm. They're TOO STUPID to take a class, but just smart enough to teach our kids. You sir, are a MORON!
 

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I am going to do just as the vice president says,but only because I can't afford an AR-15 and I don't have a defensive long gun anymore since I traded off my 870 to get a Ruger American rifle for hunting season.This time I am thinking Mossberg of some kind like the 500.
Look for a good used Remington 1100.:)
 

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I'm wondering, when they get around to banning shotguns errrr "assault scatterguns", will they cite shotguns' projectiles/pellets lack of ballistic traceability?
 

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If they ban assault weapons, shotguns are next, along with 'sniper rifles'. The anti-gun nuts in America work hand in hand with the anti gun nuts in countries that have banned guns.

They'll say no one needs a tube that holds 6-8 rounds!!! That's WAAAYYY more than you need to shoot a deer.
So if a shotgun is so much more effective as a weapon then what's the problem?. :confused:
Mosin, you're too late cause anything over 6 in NY is already banned and that will include those previously grandfathered in.

RemFire, if you have to ask then you'll never understand. Americans become anxious when slimy dumb politicians tell us what guns to use and knowing they only eventually want to remove them from our possession like King George attempted to do. Mate we live in two different worlds.
 

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You have to wonder things....Like we all know that shotguns and pistols won't go through the military body armor,but AR's will,and that's the first thing they want to ban,makes you wonder the deep plots of the enemy within our borders.
 

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Mosin, you're too late cause anything over 6 in NY is already banned and that will include those previously grandfathered in.

RemFire, if you have to ask then you'll never understand. Americans become anxious when slimy dumb politicians tell us what guns to use and knowing they only eventually want to remove them from our possession like King George attempted to do. Mate we live in two different worlds.
Sorry my fault, I will edit the post as I mean what is 'his' problem, if the shotgun is so much more effective, as that's what he seems to be implying.
 

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You have to wonder things....Like we all know that shotguns and pistols won't go through the military body armor,but AR's will,and that's the first thing they want to ban,makes you wonder the deep plots of the enemy within our borders.
Shot placement may become more and more important.
 

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really double ot buck wont? a 30 30 wont or a 30-06 wont? well placed shots from distance may be what instore on horseback back to the old west
 

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I think Joe "The Mushmouth" Biden's anti-gun record speaks for itself.

Joe Biden, the running mate of Barack Obama, is one of the most anti gun rights politicians in Government, although Biden falsely tries to pass himself off as pro gun:
The Brady Campaign endorses Joe Biden, saying, “Senator Biden has been a consistent supporter of the Brady Campaign,” and “a key player in the fight for the federal assault weapons ban that passed in 1994″
Biden introduced an “assault weapons” ban in Congress five years before the Clinton gun and magazine ban was imposed. In 1989, Biden’s Senate Bill 1970 proposed to ban the Colt AR-15 and eight similar firearms as “assault weapons,” and authorize the Secretary of the Treasury (in reality, BATF) and the Attorney General to recommend to Congress any other firearms, regardless of type, to be banned as “additional assault weapons.”
Biden was instrumental in the passage of the 1994 Clinton gun and magazine ban. Biden reiterated his support for the ban—and, in fact, took credit for authoring it—in response to a question at the CNN & YouTube debate earlier this year (see the video below). Biden voted for the ban on a stand-alone vote in 1993, and voted to extend the ban in 2004 as an amendment to the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.” He also included a renewal of the ban in his crime bill last year, along with gun show restrictions.
Joe Biden’s S. 2237 proposes to renew the Clinton ban on roughly 200 makes and models of semi-automatic rifles, shotguns, and handguns on the basis of things like the shape of their grips, and on ammunition magazines that hold more than 10 rounds, regardless of the kind of firearm in which they are used.
Biden voted against the law that prohibits lawsuits designed to bankrupt law-abiding firearm manufacturers and dealers. He also refused to sign the Congressional brief in Heller, and voted to confirm only one of the five justices who ruled in favor of the Second Amendment in Heller, yet he voted to confirm all four justices who voted against the Second Amendment in that case.
Simply put, Biden and Obama may very well be the most anti gun candidates this country has ever seen.
This guy would have all our guns if he could, including shotguns. Like most politicians he's just trying to take our eye off the ball by spouting a bunch of goofy crap, something he's expert at I might add.
 
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