best small .22 pistol

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Thelt, Jan 16, 2010.

  1. Thelt

    Thelt New Member

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    Any opinions on what the best small .22 pistol is? I looked at a beretta but I do not like the design with the tip up barrel and difficult slide. Phoenix Arms makes a small pistol that looks good but is so cheap it make me wonder about the quality.

    I have a Walther P22 which is fun to plink with but I would like something smaller.
     
  2. jlrich

    jlrich New Member

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    I have and can recommend a Browning Buckmark.
    I find it very accurate and especially easy to clean.
     

  3. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    I found a post on another forum site with someone talking about their experience with the Phoenix Arms.Here is their post:

    I love mouse guns. I just picked up a nickel-finished Phoenix Arms HP22A with extra barrel, extra mag, cleaning kit and hard case for $90. It is in 90% condition and appears to have been cleaned very little and carried alot. The gun is 5 years old and has normal wear. This one comes with a 3" and a 5" barrel. I do not like the looks of the 5 incher, so I took it off and shot it with the 3 inch.

    I tested this gun as I had recieved it.....dirty and un-lubricated. I shot 100rds of CCI MiniMag RN during the tests. This is what I found:

    First off, I do not like the odd safety mechanisms on it. You must have the slide locked back to remove or insert a magazine (I later defeated that PITA feature when I got home). The slide lock can also be slid up as a safety when the slide is closed. It has a second lever up by the rear sight that is a firing pin block. Strange. First pistol I have had my mits on that had two individual safety levers.


    As for shooting, the sights have something to be desired though I found it surprising that this little inexpensive pocket pistol has an adjustable rear sight (windage only). Once the sights are lined up I began a slow, steady pull the the rear and found alot of takeup followed by alot of creep which ended in a surprisingly crisp release. I continued shooting until the 10 rounds were spent only to find that the slide does not lock back when the magazine is empty. At a distance of 10 feet, this little gun put all 10 rounds in one ragged hole about the size of a dime. I have not tried it off of a bench, but I'm very pleased with the free-hand result!

    How many failure to feeds, failure to fire or failure to extracts out of 100 shots? ZERO. It functioned smoothly as advertised every time.

    Over all I cannot complain. It is, after all, a cheap gun but it does have some pleasant surprises....the main ones being reliability and accuracy.

    I know when most people see "Phoenix Arms", they think "Raven". Wrong. This little jewel is far from it. The only things shared between the Raven and the HP22A is the name "Phoenix Arms" stamped on them. If you want a decent .22 pocket auto and don't want to drop much cash, get one.....you'll be surprised.
     
  4. hunter Joe

    hunter Joe New Member

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    There are so many good choices:
    Ruger Mark I, II, or III
    Sig. Mosquito
    Browning Buckmark
    Walther P22

    You can't go wrong with any of the above.
     
  5. Esteban

    Esteban New Member

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    I have shot the Phoenix 22's & their immediate " cousins." Shot every time & had little trouble, even though , as you said,, it is cheap. Some states, do not all their sales, due to their quality steel.
    These are no longer made, so a little expensive, but will never lose any value.

    http://www.joesalter.com/detail.php?f_qryitem=6830
     
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  6. BillDeShivs

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    The Beretta slide never needs to be operated! That is what the tip-up barrel is for. Just insert a loaded magazine, then drop a round in the barrel and close it.
     
  7. M14sRock

    M14sRock New Member

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    Try to find a Walther TPH.

    They are uber slim, available in Stainless, accurate and reliable. I have one and love it. Bought one in the 80's and ended up selling it, which was a mistake. Finally replaced it about 4 or 5 years ago and have no intentions of ever letting this one go.

    I'll post a pic later so you can see the size.
     
  8. druryj

    druryj New Member

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    The Beretta 21A is tops in its class IMO. But if I could find a good TPH, I'd snatch it up!
     
  9. DrumJunkie

    DrumJunkie New Member

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    I'll second that...
     
  10. Shihan

    Shihan Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    How small you want to go? This is a good Small .22
     

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  11. General-Logic

    General-Logic New Member

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    Ruger Mk3.
    I love them.
     
  12. group17

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    Genitron.com: Comparing 3 Guns|P22|Buck Mark Micro Standard URX|HP22|

    Let's see you already have a P22 which has a length of 6.26"

    You want something smaller that you can carry in your pocket.

    Although nice 22's the shortest Ruger or Browning is 8" long.

    Now the Phoenix HP22a is 5.625"long. Yes, smaller!
    This little inexpensive gun from my experience is accurate, pocket sized and reliable and has a lifetime warranty. Reviews are favorable. eats cheap 22 ammo. That's why i bought one.

    You can buy 2 for the price of your P22. Give it a try.
     
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  13. jakebrake

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    there used to be a model 70 beretta in 22. if you can find one, they are slicker than greased moose poop.
     
  14. superskyxlr8

    superskyxlr8 New Member

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    Best .22 handgun

    I would go with a berreta. The 92 series. They are nice guns. :)
     
  15. Thelt

    Thelt New Member

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    I have been thinking about this subject again lately and thought I would revisit this thread.

    Since the time I wrote this I purchased a Phoenix Arms 22 but did not like it very much. Even though it is small it is fairly heavy. Not great for pocket carry. It also has a confusing safety system.

    I purchased a Jiminez 22 and I like the size and features on the gun a lot. The quality is just not there though. Reliability is spotty at best.

    I have a Ruger LCP for pocket carry and a Kahr CW9 that I carry sometimes but I would still like to find a nice pocket pistol chambered in 22lr.
     
  16. smoooth308

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    Yeah I would definitely look at the beretta's.
    Buddy of mine has one of the tiny ones with the tip up barrel and it's been a ton of fun and reliable.
     
  17. icom

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    Love my mosquito broke it in with cci mini mags and now it will eat anything you feed it. Just keep it clean and the pistol has been great to me over 3000+rounds through it.
     
  18. chucksolo69

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    I highly recommend the new Browning 1911 .22 A1. It is 7/8ths the size of a regular 1911 and breaks down exactly like one; the gun is all aircraft grade aluminum except for the trigger, hammer, extractor, slid stop, etc. I have fired numerous brands of ammo through it and it has only failed to feed on 3 rounds from a 550 Bulk pack of Federal .22 ammo. I believe that was the ammo's fault though and not the gun's. The little Browning feels great in the hand too, and can serve as an excellent training weapon for a full sized 1911. It comes in a 100 year commemorative leather and canvas gun rug complete with certificate of authenticity. It is accurate too. It will do 2" goups at 15 yards which open up to 4" groups at 25 yrds. At least mine does from a rested position.
     
  19. donthav1

    donthav1 Active Member

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    i've heard good things about the bersa thunder .22. i don't own one & have never shot it but there are members on here that do own them, hopefully one of them will chime in about that gun.

    another option would be an old H&R 922 or 929 snub nose, or the more recent, but still out of production, NEF R92 snubby. both are revolvers but they hold 9 nine rounds