Best Home Defense Ammo

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by Jusselin, Oct 8, 2009.

  1. Jusselin

    Jusselin New Member

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    Ok i have a 9mm Sig and am wondering what is the cheapest ammo i can safely fire through this gun for practice....and what is the best ammo i can buy for a sure fire Kill when a perp enters the house?

    my noobie intro has not shown up yet but when it does i am sure you guys will find out i am here to educate myself :D because i dont know any where near what i would like to on firearms
     
  2. NGIB

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    There is no such thing as "a sure fire kill" and this phrase immediately makes me think of a mall ninja. If you ever have to use a handgun to defend your home your goal is to stop the threat - period.

    For range ammo, any name brand will work just fine - go to Walmart and buy what's on the shelf. They generally carry Winchester White Box and Blazer Brass and either is OK.

    For SD ammo, there are a zillion choices out there and you need to experiment as some guns are picky with some types of SD ammo. I've had good success using Gold Dots and this is what I keep in all of mine...
     

  3. Jusselin

    Jusselin New Member

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    well i guess what i mean by sure fire kill is what will be most damageing what will cause the most internal damage is there a bullet that causes more damage than another?

    it may seem sick and twisted to some but where i am from you dont pull a gun to injur...you pull a gun to kill
     
  4. NGIB

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    Shooting to "stop a threat" is legal in most jurisdictions when justified, overtly announcing your intention to "shoot to kill" can and will land you in jail.

    If that is your only stated purpose, I suggest the plutonium tipped tactical projectiles. They're hard to find at Walmat but they're guaranteed...:rolleyes:
     
  5. stalkingbear

    stalkingbear Well-Known Member

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    Ngib is right in that you shoot to "stop said threat from all further acts of aggression"-as soon as possible. Unfortunately that often results in the death of the aggressor. Having said that, any of the premium hollow point brands will suffice IF they work reliably in YOUR firearm. The only way to assure that is to shoot at least a few boxes of the defense ammo through your intended defensive firearm.
     
  6. Jusselin

    Jusselin New Member

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    Word thanks stalking bear....where are you guys from? I have always been told here in texas to never pull your fire arm unless you intend to use it, and only use it if you intend to kill....is that not correct?

    keep in mind my brothers (marine vets) and my father (Detective) are the ones who told me this
     
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  7. Jusselin

    Jusselin New Member

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    whats is with the rolled eyes
     
  8. stalkingbear

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    The thing is you never announce that you're going to kill somebody, you may have to use deadly force to SAVE you or loved 1s-not to kill somebody-see the difference in wording? You say I shot to SAVE my life-not I shot to kill him. That wording may mean a world of difference in the aftermath later or in court if you're unlucky enough to be prosecuted.
     
  9. cpttango30

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    When you point a gun at something you better be sure you intend on destroying it. Correct?

    So following that you never 'shoot to kill' You do like bear and NGIB said and shoot to stop the threat. If by pulling your firearm you stop the threat then it's over. Hold him at bay till the authorities arrive then follow orders. By pulling your sidearm you are agreeing that your actions may cause you to take another's life weather you want to or not. By drawing you are saying I am willing to take you life and I understand the choice I made.

    If you can't understand that then I don't think you need to carry.
     
  10. Jusselin

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    i see what you mean , around here it is shoot to kill, don't need that fugger healing up and suing, or have his family suing you for paralyzing their seemingly innocent baby who'd never ever in a million years, break into someone's house and attempt to rob them.

    you know what i mean
     
  11. Jusselin

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    just spoke to my local police department and you guys are right...it is shoot to stop the threat, which your target should be center mass right in the middle of the chest which is the widest target on the body....i do appologize, i guess there is a difference in what the law says and what a hardcore aint gunna take sh!t from no body says lol
     
  12. canebrake

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    The well placed one.

    And cut out the KILL crap, you're making me nervous.

    NOTE: You don't want to make canebrake nervous!
     
  13. Jusselin

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    :p

    i have just had bad experiences with stuff like this so i now know my mentality has to be shoot to stop the threat and not shoot to kill ;)
     
  14. stalkingbear

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    Glad you got everything straightened out. It MAY save you from grief if you ever have to use justified deadly force.
     
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    My own thoughts on ammo...

    Range- Go to Walmart, look for Winchester White Box, CCI Blazer, or Federal Champion. All can be found around $10-12 per 50 (20-25 cents/round) when in stock. The only cheapie I avoid is Remington UMC...based souley on others' accounts.

    Defense- Just about any name brand HP should work fine in a Sig. I prefer the 115-125gr variety over the 147gr. Fed Hydrashock, Win Ranger, Speer Gold Dot, Rem Golden Sabre, and Hornady Critical Defense are all proven performers. CorBon makes some spendier high velocity loads with really impressive ballistics. Fed Classic Hi-shok is a nice bargain load. Find a flavor you like, and stick with it...sort of like motor oil in a car.

    These are all easy enough to find online if there's nothing locally. I ordered most of my HPs from ammunitiontogo.com. Fair prices, reasonable shipping, quick service.
     
  17. matt g

    matt g New Member Supporter

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    I run .45 ACP, 230 gr. Hydrashocks. They're a pretty devastating round, but I'd still count on using 2 or 3 shots to stop a threat.

    If I was stuck with a 9mm, I'd run 147 gr. Hydrashocks and practice quick follow up shots. The heavier the bullet, the quicker it will be able to dissipate energy upon impacting a soft target. It'll also cause a greater impact when used against body armor at close distances.
     
  18. Jusselin

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    wow,Fed Hydrashock, Win Ranger, Speer Gold Dot, Rem Golden Sabre, and Hornady Critical Defense

    i hade know idea there were that many choices....what is the difference between these
     
  19. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    Kind of like the difference between Ford, Chevy, Toyota, etc.

    Each of these has their fans - do some research and choose...
     
  20. Jusselin

    Jusselin New Member

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    thank you....