Best CCW for a female long distance Runner

Discussion in 'General Handgun Discussion' started by war34642, Mar 15, 2012.

  1. war34642

    war34642 New Member

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    So, my mom is looking to get her concealed carry license here in Oklahoma. Shes a long distance runner and likes to run at night during the summer but is inhibited most times because in order to run 10 to 20 miles its almost impossible not to run into some sketch areas. Her birthday is coming up and really want to set her up w something great. Anyhow, im hoping to get some advice from anyone on specific firearms that might fit the bill. Again, its long distance so weight and size is everything, especially since shes 5'1" 105lbs. I dont want to compromise too much on power and reliability but i understand it ll be give and take. Looked at the kel-tec p3at and think it might do the job but im kind of in the dark... thanks a bunch for any help :)
     
  2. Clem

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    I have a little Beretta 21. It is only a .22, but it sure is small and light. Now there are .32s and .380s that are nearly as small. You might want to look for a store that has some of these and take her out for her birthday and let her pick.
     

  3. 007BondJamesBond007

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    I would look at the Ruger LCP or S & W Bodyguard in 380. The Bodyguard comes with the laser were the LCP does not. You can add the laser to the LCP but the add on brings the price a little over the S & W. You will want a laser on both because the sights are horrible.
     
  4. mountainman13

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    You definitely want a laser on them. I would suggest the ruger. The trigger pull on the bodyguard is terrible.
     
  5. PanBaccha

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    That's great to have a mom that can run such a distance! :eek:
    My first thought would be for her to try out a Ruger LCP 380.
    They are dependable, compact, light, and reliable. You can't go wrong
    with one of them. Plus they pack a powerful punch when fired.


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  6. TimKS

    TimKS Active Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I have a Kel-tec P-3AT with a laser.......I carry it 24/7 in a pocket holster in my front pants pocket. I love it for everyday carry, and depending on weather (clothing requirements) I often carry a Glock 19 (in a Crossbreed IWB) or Ruger LCR .357 Mag. (in small belt clip IWB) in addition to the .380.

    The Ruger LCR is just a tad bulky for my front pocket or I'd carry it in place of the .380. I don't want to appear to be too happy to meet someone who might notice..... :D
     
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  7. sweeper22

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    Question: Does she want to carry a gun when she runs?

    That's a very important question. If she doesn't, she won't. I say this as someone who regularly carries and regularly runs, but rarely does both simultaneously. If she doesn't want to carry while running, buy her a medium framed HD pistol or 20ga shotgun and some pepper spray (for running).

    If she does want to carry, look into the Ruger LCP (probably the ideal choice), as well as their LC9 and LCR. They're all solid and affordable firearms. There are plenty other good options from various makers...Ruger's quality, portability, and price is just tough to match. The Sig P238 is a great little gun as well.

    There are only three and a half calibers I would consider viable in your case: 38sp, 380acp, 9mm, and maybe...just maybe, 327mag.
     
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  8. Ranger-6

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    Running alone at night is no longer safe, even if the runner is packing.
     
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    I suppose that would depend on who you are (like male vs female, for starters) and where you live. I'm pretty sure it's entirely safe for me. Every now and then I'll be out running at 2am...not carrying, and feeling very safe.
     
  10. JTJ

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    There are several good mouse guns out there in 380 but the smaller the more recoil. I hated the P3AT and the LCP. You have to practice and they are not fun to practice with. I have not fired the Bodyguard but I have handled it and the laser is a little awkward. Your budget will govern your choices. I have heard a lot of good things about the Kahr pistol. I have a Sig P238 but it might not be the best choice for your mothers requirements as it is heavier than the others. How she intends to carry is another factor. Running is going to limit choices in carry methods. A fanny pack would be too slow and probably not comfortable. She would have to be able to access the pistol quickly and easily even if she is grabbed. There was a post recently about a Flashbang holster that might be ideal for her. Dont rule out the revolvers entirely. There are smaller ones than the LCR which while light is a little bulky. S&W 642 or Charter Arms Off Duty come to mind. If at all possible, shoot before you buy. I have seen a lot of buyers remorse with the small pistols. Dont buy a self defense pistol that has a muzzle brake. The flash at night will blind you. I learned that the hard way. Luckily it was at a range and not a situation.
    There are some options for close combat that are not usually mentioned here. There are several very good fighting knives that hang from the neck by the sheath. Grab the handle, tug and you have a very formidable close in weapon that can inflict a lot of damage.These are not folders. I always carry a knife in addition to my pistol. A stun gun is also light, effective and good against dogs. Check local laws.
     
  11. war34642

    war34642 New Member

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    Oh man! A lot of great info, and very much appreciated! Well, she does in fact want to carry while running so she has more opportunities. Being female and on the smaller size shes pretty vulnerable alone especially at night and has had a few uncomfortable situations while running so most times now she just cant. It had been a twenty some odd years since she had been shooting, before she had me, but we went recently and shot my glock 21 .45 and she handled it ok surprisingly. We have a pretty great local gun shop here in Tulsa (Dongs) w great selection/prices. i think taking her there and having her get a feel for them all will be best. Pretty sure Dongs carries all the firearms you all have offered and we will definitely check them all out. Not looking to spend more than a few hundred but you know how it goes when you get hooked on something... hopefully we can stay on budget :)
     
  12. war34642

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    Now I get to do some research! First up, Ruger LCP 380acp. Ill check out all the great suggestions and get back to you guys... Sure to find a winner :)
     
  13. RufusTFirefly

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    Don't overlook the option of pepper spray and/or a taser/stungun
     
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  14. mudpupp

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    Get her an attack greyhound to run with her.
     
  15. winds-of-change

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    I agree a Ruger LCP is very light and small and is a great gun. I considered it seriously on my most recent gun purchase but I opted for a slightly heavier gun because weight wasn't as big a factor to me as to your Mom. But the LCP was a very close second contender for me. I disagree on needing a laser. I think in any situation like she might come across it will be more of a 'point and shoot' situation. Personally, I wouldn't get one with a laser. It increases the cost and weight of the gun and I doubt you'll be any more likely to hit your target at close range with a laser than without a laser. Just my opinion.

    This is another good idea. Somewhere there's a dog who would love to go running with her and would help keep her safe. I like this option a lot. She should get a dog and an LCP. I think she'd be pretty safe. The pepper spray option is another good option.
     
  16. glockman55

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    Sig. 238...380 cal.
     
  17. winds-of-change

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    I have a Sig P238 I just bought yesterday and I love it but I think the LCP is a lighter gun, just as good and might be a better carry for a long distance runner. Just my humble opinion.
     
  18. war34642

    war34642 New Member

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    ill be sure to check these options out too. Pepper spray can definitely be one mean contender, just got to make sure she knows how to use it. Seems simple but Ive heard a few stories about spraying in the wind... similar result to pissing in the wind :)
     
  19. war34642

    war34642 New Member

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    Seems to be right to go without the laser since the scenario would likely be a close range point and shoot. You never know but it seems likely yo be that case. Secondly, with the long distance upwards of 18miles when running alone she says every ounce is inevitably felt. So considering comfort and weight balanced against the need for a laser we ll prob opt out but we ll have to check it out regardless if we go the ruger lcp route.
     
  20. war34642

    war34642 New Member

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    Haha not a bad idea really. Unfortunately, she already inherited an oversized 80-100lb boxer mix from my younger brother (brother rescued him from an abusive owner) and the dog is all lover and scared of everything :/ So hes nt going to be any real help although his presence alone might make a difference.