Best Book or .com for newbie

Discussion in 'Training & Safety' started by BelRockRebel, Nov 27, 2011.

  1. BelRockRebel

    BelRockRebel New Member

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    I am reading all the mags my Dad sent with me, but can anyone recommend a book or a website that can give me some good basic knowledge on firearms and ballistics? Something like "guns for dummies" would like to understand the cal. vs. mm vs. .###. Really bugs me that I dont know this stuff. Like why is it a .45acp if it isnt just for a colt? I am sure these questions are silly to you all, but I am serious about leatning all I can.
     

  2. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    I am glad to hear that you are so interested in learning.
    click on this:
    Find NRA Near You

    see if they have a training session near you (also check the yellow pages for firearms training in your local area)
     
  3. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Bel, I know exactly how you feel. I started here with almost no knowledge of guns but a strong interest to learn. I feel I have come a long way and all I did was ask a gazillion questions here. I have a lot of free time and I'm thinking you might not with your children the ages they are. Mine are all grown so I am at a different stage of life.

    Your questions are NOT silly and no one here will think of your questions as such. Sometimes I'd be reading a thread and I'd have a question that I felt would hijack the thread so I started this thread...........

    click here for Random Questions thread

    Feel free to use it. I have never had a question go unanswered.

    I agree, ammunition and calibers, mm and things like 7.62 NATO, etc. is confusing and is STILL confusing to me. The subject is so vast it is mind boggling when you start to get into different weights of bullets, different powders, etc. What someone said to me once here on the forum was to first learn all about the ammunition my guns use. Then build my knowledge up from there. I have decided for now I don't need to worry about the various rifle calibers as I don't own a rifle right now. But if I were to want a rifle, I would first determine what kind of rifle would suit my needs then learn from there. It is almost too overwhelming to try to encompass it all at once. Believe me, some here may remember my early frustration with calibers and ammunition. Taking a step back helped a lot.

    Someone will come along here and give you a link to different calibers and various ammunition.

    Your interest and eagerness is great and you'll be surprised at how quickly you'll soak up the knowledge.
     
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  4. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Not a dumb question at all- but a VERY large field of endeavor. Designations of cartridges is a study in change, in marketing, personal vanity, and multi-nationalism.

    There are several good references that cover MOST of the cartridges out there- such as Frank Barnes Cartridges of the World (if you are not a cartridge collector, see if the library can snag you a copy )

    I have about a thousand cartridges in my collection, and that only brushes the surface. This, with it's links, will get you started- Click HERE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartridge_(firearms)

    America and Britain used the inch system- so a .44 fires a bullet ABOUT 44/100ths of an inch in diameter. Europeans used the metric system- instead of a .32, they have a 7.65 mm round.

    Some of the names are marketing and copyright- since Colt invented the .45 Auto as it is know known, they named the cartridge the .45 Automatic Colt Pistol. Smith and Wesson invented the .40 Smith & Wesson so you see .40 S&W on guns not made by them- THEY own the name.

    Some names, like 45-70, were the caliber (45) and number of grains of black powder (70) The 30-06 is a .30 cal rifle cartridge, created in 1906. The 7.62x39 is a 7.62 mm bullet in a 39mm case- but Europeans and Americans measure bore diameter differently. 9mm Luger is PROPERLY called 9mm Parabellum, but could be called other names as well. And there are a BUNCH of "9mm" rounds that are different sizes, for different guns.

    This is an extensive field of study on its own. Do as much reading as you can, and get back to us with questions. We won't bite- really.
     
  5. First Sgt

    First Sgt New Member

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    Try going to the website: Cornered Cat It is designed specifically for women, but I read it regularly as it has information on MANY topics in addition to "caliber" info. Hope this helps you.
     
  6. BelRockRebel

    BelRockRebel New Member

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    Great site! And thank you all for sharing your, knoweledge and experience! You all are being so kind to the girl with all the boys who can't carry in her ***- backwards state of Illinois.

    I might just start a boy band, if it weren't for wrestling, baseball, football, drivers ed, grange, blah, blah, blah, oh, and now...shooting!
     
  7. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    And those that do bite will be required to wear a muzzle and be kept on a short leash. :D
     
  8. BelRockRebel

    BelRockRebel New Member

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    I just picked up the 103rd edition of the Shooter's Bible! Would it make me a nerd if I brought it to a gun shop and took notes while they answered my questions?
     
  9. pagj17

    pagj17 New Member

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    gosh darn it!
     
  10. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    Bel- if they do, you need another gun shop.

    Some shops are a PITA- had one correcting how I pronounced a cartridge (I happen to know the gent that INVENTED the cartridge :mad:)

    Obviously, do not pick a day/time that the shop is up to it's armpits in customers (day before deer season, etc)

    Would also suggest that you find a shop with a range, and offers the NRA classes. DO be sure to have a working BS detector with you- I have encountered shops where the staff did not know as much as they think they do.

    Please goggle Illinois State Rifle Association, and talk with them. They are the State assoc of the NRA- they can put you in touch with some good folks.

    And do not be afraid to ask questions- I have been doing this a long time, and I am still learning.
     
  11. winds-of-change

    winds-of-change The Balota's Staff Member

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    Absolutely not. I always write down stuff at the gun store. I can't remember everything so I write it down. I have found the people at The Bullet Stop to be very helpful and patient with me.
     
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  12. tiberius10721

    tiberius10721 New Member

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    I bring my I pad into our local store to compare prices .
     
  13. dbrownpilot

    dbrownpilot New Member

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    I'm a newbie, but I can tell you the difference between a 45ACP and 45 Long Colt. The ammo for the long colt is about twice as expensive.
     
  14. ninjatoth

    ninjatoth New Member

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    If you go to wikipedia and type "list of handgun cartridges"or "list of rifle cartridges" you will get a huge list of the history of dozens of rounds of ammunition,muzzle velocity,bullet weight and foot lbs energy of any round of ammunition.I also like this site for alot of other useful information Beartooth Bullets > Ballisticians Corner
     
  15. philobeddoe

    philobeddoe New Member

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    The last place you'll learn anything about firearms is at a gun shop.
     
  16. gwk4667

    gwk4667 New Member

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    If that is your experience then find another gun shop!!!!!