Best ammo for a Para Ord Expert GI 1911 .45?

Discussion in '1911 Forum' started by kerfwango, Feb 12, 2012.

  1. kerfwango

    kerfwango New Member

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    Greetings from a noob,

    Bought my first handgun for home protection recently - the model stated in the thread title - and my first firings on the range have gone well with one exception: the weapon will hang with the next round about halfway loaded into the chamber. Upon clearing, it will fire a few rounds before hanging again. It seemed to have come from the factory dirty so it performed much better the second go-round after a thorough cleaning but still hung a few times while putting 100 rounds through. Both times, I was shooting PMC Bronze 45 ACP cartridges.

    I picked up some Winchester ammo today and hope that will improve its performance on this point. Otherwise, I've been thrilled with the weapon.

    Any recommendations on the best ammo to use for this platform/model?

    Thanks!

    P.S. Sorry if my terminology is off here and there. I'm a noob to gun ownership and use as well.
     
  2. c3shooter

    c3shooter Administrator Staff Member

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    You DID say first handgun- so will mention a couple of things that are not ammo.

    First, pistols need some lube. Not a lot, but it IS a machine. Clean and light lube.

    Second, these are recoil operated pistols, They rely on recoiling against a fairly fixed point, If you "limp wrist" a 45, you allow the frame to move instead of the slide, and you will have problems.

    Golden Sabre, Gold Dot, Hydra-Shock, or Winchester SXT are all good SD rounds.

    I have one 45 that is an embarrasment- More than handloads, more than military match, it loves the CHEAP aluminum cased non-reloadable Blazer.
     

  3. g17frantz

    g17frantz New Member

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    Get to about 500 rounds. (Break in for some 1911 mfgrs) if the problem still persists, get some Wilson combat magazines or chip McCormick power mags. That could fix the problem. Your ammo should be good as long as its 230 gn fmj's. That's what 1911's were made to shoot. But get to 500 rnds and let us know.
     
  4. fins59

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    It'll be interesting to see where this goes. I've got the same gun doing the same thing. Only ours did great the first time out, not so great the 2nd. Thought about the "limp wrist" deal, but unless it's just more picky than my XD I don't see that as the prob. But maybe. I'm only up to about 350 rounds so far.
     
  5. kerfwango

    kerfwango New Member

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    Thanks, c3. I did a clean-n-lube between first and second trips to the range and that helped not only the hang problem but the slide, as well.

    I've tried to pay attention to grip strength and find the balance between over-gripping and having relaxed control. I felt like I was over-gripping the thing in the beginning. But perhaps, with this caliber, my definition of over-gripping is just a strength deficit in my grip while I'm growing accustomed. Given the recoil dependency for reload, what you say makes a lot of sense.

    Thanks for the ammo recs. I'll see how these Winchester rounds perform and retain that list for future reference.
     
  6. kerfwango

    kerfwango New Member

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    I hadn't considered grain as a factor but that makes sense. I'm at 200 rounds now so back to the range for me! (Thanks for the brand recs.)
     
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  7. kerfwango

    kerfwango New Member

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    That is interesting. I'll continue to post my experiences in this thread as long as they're relevant. Will be interesting to see how you fare with yours, if you care to do the same.

    Just curious - have you cleaned yours yet? Did you happen to notice its condition from the factory? Mine acted like a whole different weapon after the first cleaning and a lot of carbon came out of it when I first used a bore brush.
     
  8. fins59

    fins59 New Member

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    I didn't clean it before the first time out. Owners manual lead me to believe not to. I did lube it though. Cause other than a little grease around the top of the barrel. It was dry as a bone.
    My slide also fails to lock back on the last shot sometimes. It locks half back. Gotta pull it the rest of the way to drop the mag.
     
  9. Chandler51

    Chandler51 New Member

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    I have two Kimbers...same problems with one of them until I got past the 500 round mark. It wasn't like a "magical" thing that once #500 was fired all problems disappeared, but rather a steady improvement with the increased round count.

    Be sure your grip is proper, and don't worry til after 500 or so.

    Some people think the break in period is bs, but I assure you it is not.

    Good luck.
     
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  10. Thebiker

    Thebiker New Member

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    2nd the Wilson Combat mags. They feed my 1911 better than my stock mag.

    And congrats on the new 1911.
     
  11. semipacifist

    semipacifist New Member

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    break in


    The break in period issue got my attention. I know some think if it doesn't work out of the box, it's broke. Then others believe in the break in period.

    Some say there's the official break in periods with some 1911 manufacturers so a person will be disinclined to send the gun back. One esteemed person noted most 1911's are not shot much, which the manufacturers take into account.

    The issue that says to me break in is valid is that today's 1911's are tighter than the ones of decades past.
     
  12. Tackleberry1

    Tackleberry1 New Member

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    3rd Wilson Mags!

    Use them in both my 1911's
     
  13. rjgnwdc

    rjgnwdc New Member Supporter

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    Not sure if I agree with break in periods, I bought 3 1911 this year and none needed any break in at all and they were all different makes. I did start all of them with CMC Shooting Star mags, Wilson combat and now Tripp Research Cobra Mags I think theses will be my magazines of choice. The Remington and Colt both came with 2 mags and I still use them but not near as much as the others, all mine have well over 500 rounds and none of them have any issues or problems, I think out of all the rounds they have fired only a few FTF and FTE
    and that was probably my reloads. I really think the biggest feed problems are with $hitty magazines so I just won't use them.
     
  14. canebrake

    canebrake New Member

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    Try a bunch. Let the gun tell you what ammo it likes.
     
  15. limbkiller

    limbkiller New Member

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    Funny how I have a few 1911s and the only two that chocked were my fault. I didn't clean or lube them properly before shooting them as I was in a hurry to get out and shoot and used cheap mags. One was a Ruger and the other was a Remington. Mags HAVE made a differance in how well they ran. I use oil on anything that rotates and grease on anything that slides. I don't believe in a break in period. I work hard for my money and it better run out of the box or goodbye and I won't buy that brand again.