best .45 carbine?

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by Crazvet, May 28, 2013.

  1. Crazvet

    Crazvet New Member

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    I'm looking for a well-made reliable home defence weapon in .45, I'm gonna start reloading as soon as I can and would like to keep it simple w one round. I edc a SA XDs and gonna use a 4"-5" 1911 as my bedside weapon, the carbine will be my ****-hits-the-fan weapon.
     

  2. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Kriss Vector . no problems with mine what so ever

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  3. nitestalker

    nitestalker New Member

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    Just get a Uberti version of a 92 Winchester lever action in .45 Colt. :)
     
  4. Jagermeister

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    Do you have a range report or video firing the Vector?
     
  5. purehavoc

    purehavoc New Member

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    Sure do , no video but I will tell you this , I hear about alot of manual extraction problems . Yes if you pu55y foot around it will drop the round back on the top of the mag , pull it like you mean it and it will spit the round out .
    Very very accurate , The recoil feels funny because of the way the bolt travels , it goes back about 1" then turns and goes down about 1" which gives the perception that the gun is actually pulling down and that makes it very easy to stay on target . It uses Glock G21 mags which are available in what they call a 25+ which will hold 30 but I only load 27-28 rds in mine . Mags drop very freely , the safety is kinda in a janked up place it either needs to be just a tad forward of a short throw safety would fix the problem I had, big hands, big fingers . The trigger isnt the greatest , its like a mil spec trigger feel , Mine came with diamond head sights front and rear and they are very nice . 4 pin break down , very easy to clean . When I say accurate I had 3 shots inside a half dollar circle at 60 yards with a 2 moa RDS , which I thought was damn good for that caliber at that distance , Anything else you want to know about it ?
     
  6. Jagermeister

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    Thank you for your input. I am unable to experience a lot of the weapons that you guys can purchase. One of the things I am not happy about. I have heard a lot about this carbine and would love to shoot one someday. Interesting design for a carbine.
     
  7. jd45

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    A solid projectile has the ability to pass thru drywall & wound unintended targets, (read that, "loved ones") IF you miss your intended. I have seen demonstrated on cable TV shows regarding home defense, that a shotgun with high-number bird shot will do minimal damage to a house's walls, not injuring a person's family members in an adjacent room, but doing hellacious havoc on the flesh of an intruder. Outside one's dwelling may be another matter & I like the idea of a Rossi '92 in .45 Colt for that situation,.....in fact, I have one myself. It's VERY accurate & hard hitting with a 260 Speer JHP & a good dose of H4198. jd45. BTW, I own a few rifles & a few revolvers in this caliber, which is my favorite, hence my user name
     
  8. jd45

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    Nitestalker.....does Uberti now offer an 1892 replica. Cause they didn't use to. I've got one of their 1873 Sporting Rifles in .45. It's a work of art! And I sent em a big attaboy email! jd45
     
  9. nitestalker

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    jd45 I saw an 1892 Winchester .45 Colt Short rifle at the LGS last week. It was marked Cimarron . I assumed it was a Uberti? The Cimarron imports are just great quality. :)
    Joe Biden Liberal anti-gun wack job and the Media push shotguns. The reason they are longing for a Socialist America like Europe. The "Sheep" there are only allowed shotguns. A cup wad carrying 1 1/4 Oz. of lead at 10 feet will go thru many walls.:)
     
  10. Jagermeister

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    Hello gentlemen,
    This sheep owns a PDR, high capacity pistols, Mauser action rifle and tactical shotgun. The reason the guns are high quality is the age/experience of the companies, consumer expectations, quality of gunsmith schools and the old gun culture of Europe. In Austria, the gunsmith must create a masterpiece out of raw materials to past the final test. This is coupled by advance R and D, and a large worldwide small arms demand. Many companies make quality handguns, machine guns, carbines, SMGs and bolt action rifles. Not just shotguns.
     
  11. jd45

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    Nite, I just called Cimarron & Chip said Armi-Sport of Italy is the manufacturer for their '92 replicas. I tell you, IF Uberti EVER decided to offer a '92 replica, based on my 73's workmanship, I will be on it like UGLY ON AN APE!!!!!! My best to you, jd45
     
  12. jd45

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    Jagermeister, well, it looks like you have all your bases covered, to refer to an American baseball expression, IF you're not an expatriot & would've understood it automatically. In any case, I hope you don't have to use your guns in an "OH, S**T" situation, but come out standing, if you do, & the BG is, at least, done fighting, if not dead. Hope you find your carbine........doesn't Marlin offer one in this caliber? jd45
     
  13. Jagermeister

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    I am an American working for DOD. Lived most my 42 years in Germany. I am a military brat. Married a local and stayed over here. The only .45 carbines in the LGSs are the Baretta Storm and the HK. Hera Arms makes one in 9mm, but also has the convertible carbine attachments for many pistols. Hera-Arms.com. I just bought the AR, and looking to hold off on buying more firearms for a couple of years. I am looking for a good scope for the AR though. My Eotech is not the best for hunting past 100 meters. Most likely a Leupold with fire dot. Peace.
     
  14. jd45

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    Jagermeister, thanx for the prompt reply, & forgive my critque, but I bought a Leupold 6-1/2-20X40 to put atop of my Remington 700 VSS in .308 several years ago & found the optics didn't measure up to what they wanted for it. I fired a Rem 700 Sendero in 7MM soon after with a Nikon Monarch of the same power & was astounded at the brilliance & clarity of it. If I were you, I'd check out several brands before I plunked down my hard-earned cash, rather than assume an American company would give you the best bang for your Marc, (grin) jd45
     
  15. Crazvet

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    I want as simple as possible design for reliability and ease of maintenance. It would be great if it took common easy to find magazines and had decent aftermarket support.
     
  16. SSGN_Doc

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    I'm confused. Are you trying to move him away from a large projectile by recommending a shotgun? Or are you advocating the rifle that you use that slings a heavy projectile?

    Bird shot is for birds. Projectiles that will penetrate deep enough into a bad guy will also penetrate drywall.
     
  17. AgentTikki

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    Honestly, I don't think a .45 gains too much from being shot out of a longer barrel. Besides the ancillary benefits of a shoulder stock and longer sight radius, I would guess that the powder burns too fast, petering out before the bullet has a chance to leave the barrel.


    but, my vote would be for a Kriss or UMP.
     
  19. jd45

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    SSGN_DOC, with respect, based on AGENT TIKKI's addition, wouldn't a 12-guage form of a Glazer slug be effective & safe, as I suggested? Regarding a warm-loaded .45 Colt from a rifle, that was for outside-the -home use, as I mentioned. You gotta use the right weapon & ammo for the job.....granted tho, it's not always possible. In which case you gotta use what's available & make DAMN sure you hit what you're aimin at! What say you, NUKEDR? I'm interested to read your opinion, jd45