Bersa Thunder 22 VS Taurus PT-22

Discussion in 'Semi-Auto Handguns' started by Gard, Mar 29, 2011.

  1. Gard

    Gard New Member

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    The other day I was at a gun shop looking for a Bersa Thunder 22. Apparently they are few and far between, with most shops only ordering the 380 versions.
    I was shown a Taurus PT 22, that was visually very appealing with a stainless body and Rosewood grips at a nominal price of about $250.

    Returning home I went on line to see what others said about the gun. The consensus is that it is not as accurate as other guns of its size, and has feed issues depending on the selected ammunition. It is somewhat similar to the Beretta with the tip up barrel, and this apparently is the reason for its innaccuracy. When it is compared to the fixed barrel of the Bersa, the shot groupings are almost double the size at 25-50 feet.

    The Taurus has a life time warranty as does the Bersa. The shop owner mention that he has returned several Taurus weapons for various repairs, and all were returned in excellent working order.

    I have never shot either gun, nor have I handled a Bersa. I have read encouraging reports about the Bersa, and am wondering if the Taurus would be a worthy substitute? The difference in price is not changing my mind from the Bersa, it's the inavaibility of obtainig one. I want a gun that will offer a life time of enjoyable usage. The more accurate and reliabile the better.

    Thanks all Gard
     
  2. NGIB

    NGIB New Member

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    For an accurate & reliable .22 pistol - get a Ruger or a Buckmark. The PT 22 is a tiny "toy" and I'm not even sure what niche it was designed to fill...
     

  3. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f66/bersa-day-plus-sig-p220-39349/

    http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f21/bersa-thunder-22-a-39173/

    check those two threads for my in depth opinion of the bersa thunder 22. its my favorite 22 pistol. ive got 1500 rounds thru it now with the only problems being an occasional severely under powered bulk pack cartridge which likely wouldnt have cycled a gun that didnt have a recoil spring. in generelly it will cycle everything i stick in it. its not picky at all. it even feeds empty fired cases.

    i highly recomend the thunder 22. its worth the wait in ordering one. i like it better than my ruger mk2 target gun. the ruger is very ammo picky.

    ive also got a walther manhurin made ppks in 22lr and the bersa while not as pretty is a better functioning gun than the walther.
     
  4. Jay

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    I just bought a Bersa .22 for my wife. She carries a Walther PPKs .380, and the Bersa is virtually a mirror image of the Walther. She can build muscle memory much cheaper with the Bersa, and it's controls are virtually identical in function, and location. Win-win...
     
  5. Gard

    Gard New Member

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    I have three accurate and reliable 22 pistols, a Ruger, High Standard and Sterling. I'm specifically looking for a small "pocket pistol" that my daughter can learn with, and develop her familiarity with hand guns.

    After reading your replies, I've pretty much eliminated the Taurus PT 22. I'm still looking at the Bersa and considering the Beretta 21a. The Beretta is the same cost as many pocket sized 380s. If this pistol weren't intended as a starter, I would choose one of the larger calibers.

    Thank you for your replies, I appreciate your insight. Gard
     
  6. Jay

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    A .22 is a wise starting point. After the basics are learned, THEN progress to larger calibers. Many new-to-shooting folks are seriously put off by someone starting them out shooting a larger caliber. Kinda like shoes, the first pair you had likely didn't have cleats/spikes on 'em.

    Rugers, Buckmarks, and S%W's are all fine .22 handguns. I have some of each, but they're at a higher price point.
     
  7. danf_fl

    danf_fl Retired Supporter

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    My wife has 2 PPK/s.
    One in .22lr, and one in .380ACP.

    The .22 is one of the most accurate, fun to shoot, easy to take of handguns we have.
    The fixed barrel is a plus in the accuracy area. The Bersa is the one I would pick between the two choices.
     
  8. group17

    group17 New Member

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    Pocket sized 22 she can learn on a Phoenix HP 22a. for $150. Very reliable and eats bulk 22 just fine.You can also get a 5 inch barrel for it to make it more accurate. If you have the money the Bersa can't be beat.

    SSAA - Official Australian Shooter Reviews - .22LR target pistols

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  9. Gard

    Gard New Member

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    Since I'm looking for a "keeper" gun that's accurate and reliable, the Firestorm Bersa Thunder 22 seems to be the best 22 pocket gun for my needs. The many pleased current owners, have convinced me that my first impressions were correct. Now if I can find a local dealer to order one.

    Thanks all for your insight, and taking the time to post some helpful information. Gard
     
  10. mesinge2

    mesinge2 New Member

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    I have no experience with the 22 Bersa but the 380 ones are pretty good.

    However, the PT-22 is junk. I rarely make an outright bold statement but it is junk. My
    GF had one and it always had at least two jams per magazine. We sent it for repair.

    Then weapon came back and the little rubber whatever part in the front of the slide tore
    off and the weapon would not work. Back to Taurus it went.

    Third time the tip-up barrel would not stay locked and kept opening after being fired.
    Finally, when it came back the fourth time it was traded toward a SIG mosquito (best decision ever).
     
  11. JonM

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    Reineman true value in burlington wi has one on the shelf they ordered an extra when I got mine. Just google them for the phone number. I'm on my nook atm dunno how to cut and paste with it.
     
  12. Gard

    Gard New Member

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    In PA, the only shipment allowed for handguns is a UPS over night delivery with a signature required. This costs aprox~$45. Some dealers, because they are ticked off that I didn't purchase a gun from them, will charge ~$50 to transfer the ownership and perform the background check..

    Even though the mail order prices are less up front, the total costs will be higher than what they originally sold for. I may pay less overall, purchasing through a local ordering dealer, even though the gun prices are more at his store.

    Thanks for all of your help and info. You made my decision much easier. I'm very glad I researched the Taurus before making an impetuous decision. I would have been regretful later on. Gard
     
  13. JTJ

    JTJ Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I had a PT22 and it is not stainless. It is aluminum and will not withstand high powered 22lr like the Stinger. Using them will void your warranty. I put a lot of rounds through mine and it was reliable with 40 gr solids. A piece of the frame broke a few months ago after 19 years and lot of rounds. I sent it in for warranty repair and it was just replaced with a new gun. It arrived at the dealers and he is selling it for me. It is good for practice if you shoot a mouse gun and not much else.
     
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