Beretta cx4 carbine

Discussion in 'Auto & Semi-Auto Discussion' started by dsiemssen, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. dsiemssen

    dsiemssen New Member

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    I can't decide which caliber to get, either 9mm or 40s&w??? Please help me decide! 9mm is cheaper to shoot but the 40 has more stopping power
     
  2. JonM

    JonM Moderator

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    "stopping power" is irrelevent and mostly a myth. the only things out there i would consider having any real stopping power would be somethng like a 155mm howitzer or hellfire missile. pretty much gaurantted one shot stops.

    anyway... its easier to find 9mm magazines and ammo than 40cal.

    my preference in 9mm vs 40cal is 9mm. more rounds less recoil quicker follow ups.

    good luck finding a cx4 of either caliber ive never seen one in a store.
     

  3. dsiemssen

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    I actually work at academy sports and we carry them in store for $799.99...plus my employee discount ;) not a bad deal. But thanks for the info! I was thinking the same thing to go with the 9mm... But stopping power you need to add the 454 Casull or the 500s&w
     
  4. clr8ter

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    +1 I have the .40, and I wish at this point I had gone with 9mm. Better availability. Also, pay attention to what magazine setup you're buying. The CX4 comes with mag wells for 92 series, PX4 series, and one other one, I think. Mags are not interchangeable, but you can swap out mag well parts to take a different series mag. Very easy to do.
     
  5. Obama_is_balls

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    Which store are you at? I work at store 190
     
  6. JTJ

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    I was at a local gun show last week and there was a JR Carbine priced at $1600.:eek: It was the only carbine I saw. If you can get the Beretta at that price, grab it in 9mm. It should handle the NATO rounds nicely. Dont expect more than a 150-200 fps boost in velocity.
     
  7. dsiemssen

    dsiemssen New Member

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    I work at store 90(Nashville/Franklin, TN) 190 is south Carolina? Maybe? I remember doing a HUGE fishing transfer to that store about a year ago lol. Are y'all completely wiped out of ammo/guns as well? We have ZERO handgun ammo, obviously no 223/5.56/7.62 in stock. We have people lined up at 6am every single day(even when there isn't a truck waiting to see if we got ammo or AR's in....
     
  8. dsiemssen

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    Damn that's ridiculous. Yea academy sports has the beretta priced at that. Just trying to get one in 9mm is gonna be the tough part. But I agree, 9mm is gonna be the way to go. The rifle itself is impractical. There really is no good use for it besides target honestly. If I needed to get after someone, that's what the 870 is used for :) also 9mm, my girlfriend would be able to learn how to shoot and not be so scared of it.
     
  9. dsiemssen

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    The one we sell at academy does not come with the mag wells. But beretta does sell them separately on their website of course it's a pretty penny. As of now it only takes the PX4 mag but in the future I will get the mag well to take the 92 magazines for larger ammo capacity. I've also heard somewhere, someone makes an interchangeable mag well to take a Glock mag but I've researched that and I haven't came across one. But the trouble I will have is finding the darn gun at the moment. Maybe I can sweet talk my manager into her placing a special order in for me(but that rarely happens at academy sports)

    Have you heard or seen anything about the Glock mag well?
    Overall, besides the caliber choice, are you happy with the gun?feeds well, maintenance? How's the recoil(would a small gal 5'5 be able to shoot it comfortable? She's never shot before) anything you don't like about the gun?
     
  10. Overkill0084

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    I tend to be skeptical about "stopping power" as it relates to pistol cartridges. Near as I can tell, what passes for stopping power is pretty much a wash between 9 mm and .40 S&W when using proper defense ammo.
    As for the CX4, I have one in .45 acp. It is one of several HD options I keep handy.
    Below is a review I posted to another forum on 22 Oct 2011. Maybe you will find it helpful, or maybe not.
    I have since added the Burris Fastfire 2 and a flashlight.
     
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  11. clr8ter

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    disemssen - the CX4 comes with one magwell insert for a specific magazine series. The parts to change it are not that much money, actually. If you go to the Beretta forum, they have a very good classified section, and you can buy, sell, or trade for whatever you may need. I have had good luck with that.
    In general, I like the gun. I bought it because I can run the same mags in it that I use in the 96A1. Breaks down easy to clean, no tools. Same basic controls in more or less the same spot as the pistols.

    Cons, IMHO;

    Sights are ****. Plan on doing something else.
    It falls under 922R rules, you have to be careful when you start changing things.
    I think the part that attaches the bottom of the pistol grip to the end of the stock looks stupid. Sawing it off apparently causes a problem with the 922R rules.
    Recoil (.40). It hurts my shoulder. I know this sounds stupid, and I do not know why it does. A couple of mags, and I feel it the next day. I'm 5'9", and pretty boney. Having said that, my wife shot it, she's a novice shooter, and she didn't complain. She ran 1 mag thru it.
    Some of the internals can use improving. One part in particular will render the gun unable to fire if it breaks. This apparently is not common, but it could happen. There is a company called Sierra Pappa that makes very high quality upgrades, all metal. NOT cheap, though. Again, look this up on the Beretta Forum.
     
  12. dsiemssen

    dsiemssen New Member

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    Thanks for the input! The beretta cx4 that I sell at Academy Sports does not come with the mag well insert for whatever reason. But from all the info you have shared, I gathered that if I want something for just fun then get the 9mm...the only problem now will be finding one haha :/ hopefully this madness dies off allowing manufacturers and retail stores and gun shops replenish their stock.
     
  13. clr8ter

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    Yes, it does. It comes with ONE, not all of them. It's part of the gun, and it won't work without it. You just have to figure out which one it has.

    BTW, there has been roumors that Beretta has discontinued them, and even in normal times, these things are scarce. I bought mine maybe 2 years ago, and I had to hunt for it. a Special Order is going to be your best bet, I'd guess.
     
  14. CrazedJava

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    Not a big fan of .40. You're not getting that much more power than a 9mm and you're increasing recoil, ammo price, and losing some capacity. Out of a carbine I see even less point. Not knocking .40 owners but in a handgun I can somewhat understand.

    Out of a carbine you should have somewhat or much easier shot placement. If you're going to go pistol caliber 9mm is sufficient.

    Just my opinion though.
     
  15. clr8ter

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    At this point, I'm not sure I would disagree. 2 years ago I would have. My suspicion is, either one could make a very bad day for someone.
     
  16. dsiemssen

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    The only things in the box are a cleaning kit, 2 mags and a speed loader... Out of the box it takes the PX4 magazine. There is the mag well kit that beretta sells that makes the 92fs magazines compatible.

    I see your point being a carbine. It's all about shot placement.. 22lr could stop someone depending on shot placement but I wouldn't recommend it by any means. Looks like 9mm it is gonna be the choice. Academy sports has a new order with them around the end of the month hopefully beretta fulfills that order so I can get it!
     
  17. clr8ter

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    That is correct. That is more or less what I said. We are going around in circles.:D The gun comes with a mag well insert installed. If I am not mistaken, you can get them with the 92 mag well insert installed.
     
  18. dsiemssen

    dsiemssen New Member

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    Ooooo I understand what you were saying now. I thought you were saying it comes with the mag well for both. I apologize... Yes beretta does sell the mag well kit for the 92... Of course it's out of stock... But why don't they come out with an extended mag for the px4 or the cx4... They would make a killing on it lol.

    Have you heard anything about a glock mag well kit? Someone mentioned that to me at work but never been able to find anything on it.
     
  19. clr8ter

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    Nope, no Glock option. There are pistol caliber carbines that do take Glock mags, though. Kel Tec S2000 comes to mind. I personally passed on that one. Yup, Beretta would make a lot of money on Hi-Cap mags in general, but they refuse to build them. The only one they have is the 30 round 92 mag. It CAN be converted to a 20 round 96 mag. I have done it. Actually, IMHO, that's one of Beretta's major issues right now. They don't really seem to be doing their R&D (Nano), or supporting the guns they bring out (CX4) too well. Like I said, it you need CX4 parts, join the Beretta forum, and peruse the classifieds, and check out SierraPappa.com.
     
  20. dsiemssen

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    Yea I agree... You would think someone would have came out with an extended mag at least... But beretta should have came out with one for the CX4 alone... It probably would have gained popularity a little bit faster. What is R&D?