Beretta Cougar Evaluation & Range Report

Discussion in 'Range Report' started by CA357, Jun 27, 2009.

  1. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    This is a Beretta Cougar model 8045 which is a compact .45ACP. The mags are fat enough to be double stack ten rounders, but only hold eight. So capacity is 8 + 1. I haven't yet been able to find higher capacity mags, but I'm on the hunt. If they exist, I want some.

    The pistol has a 3.75" barrel and a fairly wide full length grip. There is a Mini Cougar version made with the same overall dimensions, but with a shorter grip. It comes with Trijicon night sights, but they are, sadly, quite deceased.

    The barrel rotates on recoil rather than tipping up like the Browning design. Some say this lessens felt recoil, but frankly, I couldn't discern much difference.

    It's a wide/fat pistol and it feels good to grip and aim. Mine is an agency trade in, but must have belonged to an officer or a desk jockey as it looks practically new.

    Fit and finish is excellent. It's the standard Beretta matte black. Mine came with the Beretta blue plastic case and two mags. No manual.

    I cleaned and lubricated it before it's first range trip, but without a manual, the rotary barrel was a bit tricky to reassemble. It's simple once you know how.

    Now, the Range Report:

    I wanted to test for function, accuracy and reliability. To that end, I fired a wide range of ammunition.

    Ammunition was Blazer 230gr. FMJ, WWB 230gr. FMJ, Federal 165gr. Hydra Shok and my favorite .45 round Hornady 230gr. truncated cone/flat point FMJ's. (it's the round that the late Col. Jeff Cooper developed in conjunction with Hornady)

    First off, it fed everything beautifully, but there were several failures to eject with the Blazer and the WWB. The Hornady and the Federal worked flawlessly. So my SWAG is that it likes hotter loaded ammunition.

    The trigger breaks cleanly and crisply, but the slack takeup feels two feet long. I'm going to find out what can be done about that. It definitely took some getting used to, but I guess that's part of it's nature as a concealable service pistol.

    As you can see on the target, I wasn't on my best game today. After a while I was able to feel the trigger better and also to get a better sight picture.

    Here's some pics of the pistol and the target. Range was 15 yards. Of approximately 250 rounds fired, this one was my last target.

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  2. skullcrusher

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    Looks like a winner and a dead bg right there. Very nice. :)
     

  3. Gojubrian

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    Cool lookin' 45! Looks like good shootin' to me!!

    Thanks for the range report!! :)
     
  4. RL357Mag

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    Nice shooting CA357! Your description is accurate. My 8040 mini-Cougar has a long DA trigger take-up as well. Once I got around the fact that it's not a target pistol, I started enjoying it more. It never jams and feels comfortable in the hands. Is yours made in Italy or Maryland?
     
  5. CA357

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    It says Made in Italy on the slide. :)
     
  6. SGT-MILLER

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    Congrats.

    Very nice weapon, and very nice shooting.
     
  7. RL357Mag

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    Cool! That's the best kind, considering they're the oldest firearms manufacturer in the world.
     
  8. CA357

    CA357 New Member Supporter

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    Yeah, that is definitely a cool aspect of it. It's my first Beretta of any kind.
     
  9. RL357Mag

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    It was my first also. I would like to get a Mod.92 or 96 in the future.
     
  10. CA357

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    I know those are excellent pistols, but they seem awfully large for a 9mm to me. I think the Hi Power is the perfect nine. :cool:
     
  11. RL357Mag

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    They are definately too big to conceal, but I'm more interested in accuracy now - I have 3 CCW's already and don't need anymore. The HiPower is a beauty though, and any Browning would be my next choice besides a Beretta, preferrably a nice 1911 design like a Sig GSR which was reported to make sub 2" groups at 25 yds.
     
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  12. ebear

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    cougar

    i had a Stoeger Couger 8000 9mm.it was a very well made gun .and fun to shoot. kind of a pain in the *** to put back together after cleaning. but for the money a great bang for the buck.Resale value is not very good, but i had to sell one of my 9mm's So I kept my Jericho 941.
     
  13. Dillinger

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    Now THAT'S what I call an effing Range Report! :D

    A BIG Plus One on that CA357!!

    Excellent information about the pistol, reports on ammo used and target results for the naked eye to see. Very well done!

    If memory serves, there is a "P" shaped drop in piece of plastic and spring that will replace the factory trigger spring and help with some of that take up. It's not perfect, but it's better than the factory stock option.

    You said the night sights were dead? You might want to contact the manufacturer. If it's under ( I think ) their 5 or 10 year ( I can't remember ) they will exchange them free of charge.

    Trijicon and Tritium used to have a "No Hassle" replacement under their recommended life expectancy, but that has been a couple of years since I have dealt with either company on that issue.

    All in all it looks like you got a good weapon there, but those FTE are a bit puzzling because the Horandy worked and the Federal lighter loads worked. ???? Blazer is a bit dirtier, did you experience the FTE right off the bat? Or was it well into the session??

    Keep us posted on what you turn up...

    JD
     
  14. CA357

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    The FTE's were pretty random. I'll be heading back to the range with the Sistema Colt and the Beretta on Friday morning. I figure the range should be pretty quiet that day.

    I've been wondering about the malf's and I wonder if the Beretta just needs breaking in? It looks practically new/unfired, with negligible holster wear. However, the barrel was quite dirty when I brought it home from the shop.

    I'll take a similar mix of ammunition and see how it does on the next range trip. I'll update this thread afterwards.
     
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